Kushner to Asharq Al-Awsat: The US Plan Is Not a Bribe

White House senior adviser Jared Kushner gives a speech at the opening of the "Peace to Prosperity" conference in Manama, Bahrain, June 25, 2019 in this still image taken from a video. Reuters TV via REUTERS
White House senior adviser Jared Kushner gives a speech at the opening of the "Peace to Prosperity" conference in Manama, Bahrain, June 25, 2019 in this still image taken from a video. Reuters TV via REUTERS
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Kushner to Asharq Al-Awsat: The US Plan Is Not a Bribe

White House senior adviser Jared Kushner gives a speech at the opening of the "Peace to Prosperity" conference in Manama, Bahrain, June 25, 2019 in this still image taken from a video. Reuters TV via REUTERS
White House senior adviser Jared Kushner gives a speech at the opening of the "Peace to Prosperity" conference in Manama, Bahrain, June 25, 2019 in this still image taken from a video. Reuters TV via REUTERS

US President Donald Trump’s adviser and son-in-law, Jared Kushner, said his economic plan to support the Palestinians proposes a new approach to resolving the Palestinian-Israeli conflict and that its implementation should come in parallel with the political aspect of what he calls the “deal of the century.”

In an interview with Asharq Al-Awsat, Kushner said the Manama workshop achieved “tremendous success” and that all attendees agreed that economic transformation in the West Bank and Gaza Strip was possible and reliant on political stability and security.

Noting that participants came “from all over the world,” the US senior official said that the gathering of the business community was a new approach to resolving the conflict.

He stressed that in the past, the diplomatic community failed to achieve success, and that it was repeating the same policy today.

“It is a waste of everyone's time,” he said.

Kushner explained that the economic community was looking at the prospects for security, peace and good governance, adding that shifting the Palestinian economy was possible. He also said that his economic plan was “very detailed and reasonable.”

“After extensive review, people were very positive about it and considered it achievable,” he underlined.

Responding to a question about the plan’s non-referral to settlements, occupation and checkpoints, which makes it appear detached from its political and security context, Kushner said the plan pointed to crossing points that should be invested in to facilitate transit.

He added that the presence of "solid" borders fell within Israel’s attempt to protect itself from terrorism, noting that although the proportion of people willing to commit terrorist acts was very small, the rest unfortunately paid the price.

“As for other issues, this plan is not political. So I think those who criticize the plan for this reason do not realize the purpose of this economic effort,” he told Asharq Al-Awsat.

Kushner said he believed the Israelis were impressed with the plan’s details and all-inclusiveness.

“I think the Israelis are very happy to be in Bahrain,” he added.

The US presidential adviser pointed to the rapprochement between Arab countries and Israel over the past few years.

“I think it is imperative that this region be united. When that happens, it will unleash enormous economic potential and greatly expand security,” he stressed.

Commenting on claims that the US was trying to “bribe” neighboring countries through this economic plan to settle Palestinian refugees, Kushner said the economic plan was not a bribe, but an opportunity to enable people to overcome problems that have plagued them for a long time.

He emphasized that the plan would not be implemented but in parallel with a political solution, “but at the same time we cannot just settle for a political solution without improving people’s lives, because that will hinder the political solution.”

Asked to explain his earlier statements that the US peace plan would not be in line with the Arab Peace Initiative, Kushner said that although the Arab initiative was a good effort, it was met with rejection.

“In order to reach an agreement, concessions should be made by both sides,” he remarked.

On the Arab reactions to the US economic plan, Trump’s son-in-law asserted that everyone who attended the workshop and looked at the 140-page document said that the plan was largely feasible and brought new ideas to solve the crisis.

“There is a great desire among the Gulf States to help the Palestinian people, and I think they see in this plan a framework to help them do this,” he noted.



Goldrich to Asharq Al-Awsat: No US Withdrawal from Syria

US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat
US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat
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Goldrich to Asharq Al-Awsat: No US Withdrawal from Syria

US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat
US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat

Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich has told Asharq Al-Awsat that the US does not plan to withdraw its forces from Syria.

The US is committed to “the partnership that we have with the local forces that we work with,” he said.

Here is the full text of the interview.

Question: Mr. Goldrich, thank you so much for taking the time to sit with us today. I know you are leaving your post soon. How do you assess the accomplishments and challenges remaining?

Answer: Thank you very much for the chance to talk with you today. I've been in this position for three years, and so at the end of three years, I can see that there's a lot that we accomplished and a lot that we have left to do. But at the beginning of a time I was here, we had just completed a review of our Syria policy, and we saw that we needed to focus on reducing suffering for the people in Syria. We needed to reduce violence. We needed to hold the regime accountable for things that are done and most importantly, from the US perspective, we needed to keep ISIS from reemerging as a threat to our country and to other countries. At the same time, we also realized that there wouldn't be a solution to the crisis until there was a political process under resolution 2254, so in each of these areas, we've seen both progress and challenges, but of course, on ISIS, we have prevented the reemergence of the threat from northeast Syria, and we've helped deal with people that needed to be repatriated out of the prisons, and we dealt with displaced people in al-Hol to reduce the numbers there. We helped provide for stabilization in those parts of Syria.

Question: I want to talk a little bit about the ISIS situation now that the US troops are still there, do you envision a timeline where they will be withdrawn? Because there were some reports in the press that there is a plan from the Biden administration to withdraw.

Answer: Yeah. So right now, our focus is on the mission that we have there to keep ISIS from reemerging. So I know there have been reports, but I want to make clear that we remain committed to the role that we play in that part of Syria, to the partnership that we have with the local forces that we work with, and to the need to prevent that threat from reemerging.

Question: So you can assure people who are saying that you might withdraw, that you are remaining for the time being?

Answer: Yes, and that we remain committed to this mission which needs to continue to be pursued.

Question: You also mentioned the importance of humanitarian aid. The US has been leading on this. Are you satisfied with where you are today on the humanitarian front in Syria?

Answer: We remain committed to the role that we play to provide for humanitarian assistance in Syria. Of the money that was pledged in Brussels, we pledged $593 million just this past spring, and we overall, since the beginning of the conflict, have provided $18 billion both to help the Syrians who are inside of Syria and to help the refugees who are in surrounding countries. And so we remain committed to providing that assistance, and we remain keenly aware that 90% of Syrians are living in poverty right now, and that there's been suffering there. We're doing everything we can to reduce the suffering, but I think where we would really like to be is where there's a larger solution to the whole crisis, so Syrian people someday will be able to provide again for themselves and not need this assistance.

Question: And that's a perfect key to my next question. Solution in Syria. you are aware that the countries in the region are opening up to Assad again, and you also have the EU signaling overture to the Syrian regime and Assad. How do you deal with that?

Answer: For the United States, our policy continues to be that we will not normalize with the regime in Syria until there's been authentic and enduring progress on the goals of resolution 2254, until the human rights of the Syrian people are respected and until they have the civil and human rights that they deserve. We know other countries have engaged with the regime. When those engagements happen, we don't support them, but we remind the countries that are engaged that they should be using their engagements to push forward on the shared international goals under 2254, and that whatever it is that they're doing should be for the sake of improving the situation of the Syrian people.

Question: Let's say that all of the countries decided to talk to Assad, aren’t you worried that the US will be alienated in the process?

Answer: The US will remain true to our own principles and our own policies and our own laws, and the path for the regime in Syria to change its relationship with us is very clear, if they change the behaviors that led to the laws that we have and to the policies that we have, if those behaviors change and the circumstances inside of Syria change, then it's possible to have a different kind of relationship, but that's where it has to start.

Question: My last question to you before you leave, if you have to pick one thing that you need to do in Syria today, what is it that you would like to see happening today?

Answer: So there are a number of things, I think that will always be left and that there are things that we will try to do, to try to make them happen. We want to hold people accountable in Syria for things that have happened. So even today, we observed something called the International Day for victims of enforced disappearances, there are people that are missing, and we're trying to draw attention to the need to account for the missing people. So our step today was to sanction a number of officials who were responsible for enforced disappearances, but we also created something called the independent institution for missing persons, and that helps the families, in the non-political way, get information on what's happened. So I'd like to see some peace for the families of the missing people. I'd like to see the beginning of a political process, there hasn't been a meeting of the constitutional committee in two years, and I think that's because the regime has not been cooperating in political process steps. So we need to change that situation. And I would, of course, like it's important to see the continuation of the things that we were talking about, so keeping ISIS from reemerging and maintaining assistance as necessary in the humanitarian sphere. So all these things, some of them are ongoing, and some of them remain to be achieved. But the Syrian people deserve all aspects of our policy to be fulfilled and for them to be able to return to a normal life.