Kattan: 'Council of the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden' Is Strategic Necessity

Saudi Minister of State for African Countries Ahmed Kattan (Asharq Al-Awsat)
Saudi Minister of State for African Countries Ahmed Kattan (Asharq Al-Awsat)
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Kattan: 'Council of the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden' Is Strategic Necessity

Saudi Minister of State for African Countries Ahmed Kattan (Asharq Al-Awsat)
Saudi Minister of State for African Countries Ahmed Kattan (Asharq Al-Awsat)

The Saudi Minister of State for African Countries, Ahmed Kattan, has emphasized the strategic importance of the Council of Arab and African States bordering the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden.

In an interview with Asharq Al-Awsat, Kattan said: “Saudi Arabia was the first to realize the importance of the Red Sea and the first to initiate a call for international collective efforts aimed at coordination to protect and secure the safety of the waterway.”

The Kingdom hosted on Monday a meeting for the signing of the Charter of the Council of Arab and African Coastal States of the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden.

Egypt, Sudan, Djibouti, Somalia, Jordan, Yemen, and Eritrea are members of the new alliance.

Kattan explained that the safety and security of the Red Sea, which covers an area of 178,000 square miles, was of high strategic and geopolitical importance for the Kingdom due to its geographical location linking the three major continents.

“It has become necessary to provide an economic strategy for investment and development cooperation between the countries of the alliance and other countries which share common economic interests,” he said, adding: “It is as well important to take advantage of the available opportunities to create partnerships and establish joint projects and investments that stimulate economic progress and development.”

The Saudi minister recounted that the idea of forming a regional cooperation framework in this particular region dated back to 1956, when Saudi Arabia hosted a tripartite summit in Jeddah, with the participation of King Saud bin Abdulaziz, President Jamal Abdel Nasser, and Imam Ahmed bin Yahya.

The meeting saw the adoption of the Jeddah Charter, in which Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Yemen agreed to establish a joint security system, the implementation of which was later obstructed by the political conditions that rocked the region at the time.

Years later, in 1972, the Kingdom organized a meeting in Jeddah, with the participation of Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia, and Yemen. The joint statement affirmed the rights of these countries to the deep mineral resources of the Red Sea.

In 1974, Saudi Arabia signed an agreement with Sudan on the joint exploitation of natural resources at the bottom of the Red Sea, which resulted in the establishment of the Saudi-Sudanese Joint Commission in 1975.

The following year, in 1976, a tripartite summit was held in Jeddah in the presence of King Khalid bin Abdulaziz, President Anwar Sadat, and President Jaafar al-Numairi. They agreed on the need for military coordination in the Red Sea or the formation of a unified military committee, along with the announcement of a joint defense agreement between Egypt and Sudan.

In the wake of security incidents in the region in the beginning of the 1980s and the high pollution rate that threatened marine navigation and the environment, Saudi Arabia intensified its efforts and succeeded in 1982 in the adoption of the Jeddah Agreement for Arab Security and the Environment, which was also signed by Jordan, Egypt, Sudan, Djibouti, Somalia, and Yemen.

In 2018, the Kingdom hosted the Ministerial Meeting of the Red Sea Countries and has since maintained its work to enhance regional security coordination and cooperation, Kattan told Asharq Al-Awsat.

The Red Sea - which has a coastline of about 5,500 km, an average amplitude of about 300 km and a depth of 2,500 meters, and encompasses around 1,150 islands – enjoys a unique strategic, commercial, economic, and security importance since ancient times, the Saudi minister noted.

He added that the new alliance was the result of the urgent need of the region's countries for more cooperation and political coordination.

On a different note, Kattan underlined Saudi Arabia’s “efforts to resolve differences between brothers in Africa.” He said that the Kingdom has harnessed its pioneering Islamic role in this regard, pointing out that the first result of those efforts was the historic peace agreement between Ethiopia and Eritrea.



Goldrich to Asharq Al-Awsat: No US Withdrawal from Syria

US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat
US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat
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Goldrich to Asharq Al-Awsat: No US Withdrawal from Syria

US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat
US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat

Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich has told Asharq Al-Awsat that the US does not plan to withdraw its forces from Syria.

The US is committed to “the partnership that we have with the local forces that we work with,” he said.

Here is the full text of the interview.

Question: Mr. Goldrich, thank you so much for taking the time to sit with us today. I know you are leaving your post soon. How do you assess the accomplishments and challenges remaining?

Answer: Thank you very much for the chance to talk with you today. I've been in this position for three years, and so at the end of three years, I can see that there's a lot that we accomplished and a lot that we have left to do. But at the beginning of a time I was here, we had just completed a review of our Syria policy, and we saw that we needed to focus on reducing suffering for the people in Syria. We needed to reduce violence. We needed to hold the regime accountable for things that are done and most importantly, from the US perspective, we needed to keep ISIS from reemerging as a threat to our country and to other countries. At the same time, we also realized that there wouldn't be a solution to the crisis until there was a political process under resolution 2254, so in each of these areas, we've seen both progress and challenges, but of course, on ISIS, we have prevented the reemergence of the threat from northeast Syria, and we've helped deal with people that needed to be repatriated out of the prisons, and we dealt with displaced people in al-Hol to reduce the numbers there. We helped provide for stabilization in those parts of Syria.

Question: I want to talk a little bit about the ISIS situation now that the US troops are still there, do you envision a timeline where they will be withdrawn? Because there were some reports in the press that there is a plan from the Biden administration to withdraw.

Answer: Yeah. So right now, our focus is on the mission that we have there to keep ISIS from reemerging. So I know there have been reports, but I want to make clear that we remain committed to the role that we play in that part of Syria, to the partnership that we have with the local forces that we work with, and to the need to prevent that threat from reemerging.

Question: So you can assure people who are saying that you might withdraw, that you are remaining for the time being?

Answer: Yes, and that we remain committed to this mission which needs to continue to be pursued.

Question: You also mentioned the importance of humanitarian aid. The US has been leading on this. Are you satisfied with where you are today on the humanitarian front in Syria?

Answer: We remain committed to the role that we play to provide for humanitarian assistance in Syria. Of the money that was pledged in Brussels, we pledged $593 million just this past spring, and we overall, since the beginning of the conflict, have provided $18 billion both to help the Syrians who are inside of Syria and to help the refugees who are in surrounding countries. And so we remain committed to providing that assistance, and we remain keenly aware that 90% of Syrians are living in poverty right now, and that there's been suffering there. We're doing everything we can to reduce the suffering, but I think where we would really like to be is where there's a larger solution to the whole crisis, so Syrian people someday will be able to provide again for themselves and not need this assistance.

Question: And that's a perfect key to my next question. Solution in Syria. you are aware that the countries in the region are opening up to Assad again, and you also have the EU signaling overture to the Syrian regime and Assad. How do you deal with that?

Answer: For the United States, our policy continues to be that we will not normalize with the regime in Syria until there's been authentic and enduring progress on the goals of resolution 2254, until the human rights of the Syrian people are respected and until they have the civil and human rights that they deserve. We know other countries have engaged with the regime. When those engagements happen, we don't support them, but we remind the countries that are engaged that they should be using their engagements to push forward on the shared international goals under 2254, and that whatever it is that they're doing should be for the sake of improving the situation of the Syrian people.

Question: Let's say that all of the countries decided to talk to Assad, aren’t you worried that the US will be alienated in the process?

Answer: The US will remain true to our own principles and our own policies and our own laws, and the path for the regime in Syria to change its relationship with us is very clear, if they change the behaviors that led to the laws that we have and to the policies that we have, if those behaviors change and the circumstances inside of Syria change, then it's possible to have a different kind of relationship, but that's where it has to start.

Question: My last question to you before you leave, if you have to pick one thing that you need to do in Syria today, what is it that you would like to see happening today?

Answer: So there are a number of things, I think that will always be left and that there are things that we will try to do, to try to make them happen. We want to hold people accountable in Syria for things that have happened. So even today, we observed something called the International Day for victims of enforced disappearances, there are people that are missing, and we're trying to draw attention to the need to account for the missing people. So our step today was to sanction a number of officials who were responsible for enforced disappearances, but we also created something called the independent institution for missing persons, and that helps the families, in the non-political way, get information on what's happened. So I'd like to see some peace for the families of the missing people. I'd like to see the beginning of a political process, there hasn't been a meeting of the constitutional committee in two years, and I think that's because the regime has not been cooperating in political process steps. So we need to change that situation. And I would, of course, like it's important to see the continuation of the things that we were talking about, so keeping ISIS from reemerging and maintaining assistance as necessary in the humanitarian sphere. So all these things, some of them are ongoing, and some of them remain to be achieved. But the Syrian people deserve all aspects of our policy to be fulfilled and for them to be able to return to a normal life.