Iraqi FM to Asharq Al-Awsat: Current Tensions Demand Dialogue between Regional Countries

Iraqi Foreign Minister Fuad Hussein (Abdulaziz al-Numan)
Iraqi Foreign Minister Fuad Hussein (Abdulaziz al-Numan)
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Iraqi FM to Asharq Al-Awsat: Current Tensions Demand Dialogue between Regional Countries

Iraqi Foreign Minister Fuad Hussein (Abdulaziz al-Numan)
Iraqi Foreign Minister Fuad Hussein (Abdulaziz al-Numan)

Iraqi Foreign Minister Fuad Hussein said his country was suffering the consequences of fighting and destruction, emphasizing the need for dialogue to ease tension in the region.

In an interview with Asharq Al-Awsat, Hussein, who was on an official visit to Riyadh, noted that security and political instability in Iraq affected the country’s neighbors, including the Gulf states, while the situation in Syria also had an impact on the Iraqi interior.

“Tensions in the region affect the internal Iraqi arena, as well as the internal situation of Saudi Arabia and other countries. In order to eliminate tension, we need honest discussions and debates. National security cannot be guaranteed without the security of the regional environment,” he said.

Hussein noted that the escalation of conflicts to a state of violence leads to fighting and wars, and the result is devastation.

“We, in Iraq, are victims of devastation, whether in the infrastructure or at the social, cultural and economic levels… all of which are a result of armed conflicts. Therefore, in order to reach a healthy condition, we need security and safety, and for that purpose, we need to create an appropriate atmosphere for dialogue,” the Iraqi minister underlined.

On his recent meeting with Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Faisal bin Farhan, Hussein said that talks have focused on bilateral relations and the various fields of cooperation between the two countries, including economy, energy, banking and investment.

He added that discussions also touched on the regional tension and its impact on the internal situation in Iraq and Saudi Arabia.

“We need cooperation and communication to manage these crises and keep tensions away from the region,” the minister stated.

Commenting on the remarkable improvement of Saudi-Iraqi relations, Hussein said: “Historically, the relationship between the two countries passed through many stages and included some gaps, but during recent years, they have been bridged and many bonds built, as these visits are evidence that this relationship has developed. There are also tangible matters, such as the interests of the two countries, the two peoples and the region.”

Hussein said his visit to Riyadh was preceded by a visit of the Iraqi interior minister at the head of a big delegation that discussed with Saudi officials issues related to border security and commercial exchange.

He added that border cooperation was further revived with the recent re-opening of the Arar crossing following years of closure.

On the need to activate the mechanisms of joint action between Iraq and the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC), the minister noted: “First of all, we were supportive and happy about the Gulf reconciliation at AlUla summit. Its success would yield positively on the Gulf states and the region, including Iraq. We have also built bridges for cooperation and progress in relations between each member of the Council, and we have good relations with all Gulf countries.”

As for major joint projects between Saudi Arabia and Iraq, Hussein said those fall in the fields of investment, energy and electricity, petrochemicals, agriculture, housing, contracting and others.

“However, these investment projects are also linked to the political and security situation,” he said, noting that when security threats arise in a certain area, investments are suspended.

The better the security situation, the better the investments and the flow of foreign capital, he stressed, adding that many Gulf companies and investors were ready to invest in his country.

“Iraq has vast opportunities, as we need investments in agriculture, tourism, energy and petrochemicals, services, real estate and others. I believe that investors, especially in the Gulf, are waiting for a state of complete stability in Iraq in order to invest and bring in capital, and that Gulf companies can play a role in building the Iraqi economy,” Hussein emphasized.

He also underlined the high coordination in oil policy with the Gulf states, especially Saudi Arabia, whether through bilateral collaboration or within the framework of OPEC.

“Saudi Arabia and Iraq play an important role in this organization, and coordination continues between the two countries in all fields related to energy, as it is a vital issue for the country's economy,” he remarked.

Hussein revealed a Memorandum of Understanding to import 400 megawatts of electricity from the Gulf network, adding that discussions were underway between specialists from Iraq and the Gulf States about the means to support power stations in Iraq.

“Besides the issue of electricity production, there is another problem in the distribution networks. So we need to build infrastructure for electrical distribution networks, and Gulf companies can play a role in that,” he said.



Goldrich to Asharq Al-Awsat: No US Withdrawal from Syria

US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat
US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat
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Goldrich to Asharq Al-Awsat: No US Withdrawal from Syria

US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat
US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat

Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich has told Asharq Al-Awsat that the US does not plan to withdraw its forces from Syria.

The US is committed to “the partnership that we have with the local forces that we work with,” he said.

Here is the full text of the interview.

Question: Mr. Goldrich, thank you so much for taking the time to sit with us today. I know you are leaving your post soon. How do you assess the accomplishments and challenges remaining?

Answer: Thank you very much for the chance to talk with you today. I've been in this position for three years, and so at the end of three years, I can see that there's a lot that we accomplished and a lot that we have left to do. But at the beginning of a time I was here, we had just completed a review of our Syria policy, and we saw that we needed to focus on reducing suffering for the people in Syria. We needed to reduce violence. We needed to hold the regime accountable for things that are done and most importantly, from the US perspective, we needed to keep ISIS from reemerging as a threat to our country and to other countries. At the same time, we also realized that there wouldn't be a solution to the crisis until there was a political process under resolution 2254, so in each of these areas, we've seen both progress and challenges, but of course, on ISIS, we have prevented the reemergence of the threat from northeast Syria, and we've helped deal with people that needed to be repatriated out of the prisons, and we dealt with displaced people in al-Hol to reduce the numbers there. We helped provide for stabilization in those parts of Syria.

Question: I want to talk a little bit about the ISIS situation now that the US troops are still there, do you envision a timeline where they will be withdrawn? Because there were some reports in the press that there is a plan from the Biden administration to withdraw.

Answer: Yeah. So right now, our focus is on the mission that we have there to keep ISIS from reemerging. So I know there have been reports, but I want to make clear that we remain committed to the role that we play in that part of Syria, to the partnership that we have with the local forces that we work with, and to the need to prevent that threat from reemerging.

Question: So you can assure people who are saying that you might withdraw, that you are remaining for the time being?

Answer: Yes, and that we remain committed to this mission which needs to continue to be pursued.

Question: You also mentioned the importance of humanitarian aid. The US has been leading on this. Are you satisfied with where you are today on the humanitarian front in Syria?

Answer: We remain committed to the role that we play to provide for humanitarian assistance in Syria. Of the money that was pledged in Brussels, we pledged $593 million just this past spring, and we overall, since the beginning of the conflict, have provided $18 billion both to help the Syrians who are inside of Syria and to help the refugees who are in surrounding countries. And so we remain committed to providing that assistance, and we remain keenly aware that 90% of Syrians are living in poverty right now, and that there's been suffering there. We're doing everything we can to reduce the suffering, but I think where we would really like to be is where there's a larger solution to the whole crisis, so Syrian people someday will be able to provide again for themselves and not need this assistance.

Question: And that's a perfect key to my next question. Solution in Syria. you are aware that the countries in the region are opening up to Assad again, and you also have the EU signaling overture to the Syrian regime and Assad. How do you deal with that?

Answer: For the United States, our policy continues to be that we will not normalize with the regime in Syria until there's been authentic and enduring progress on the goals of resolution 2254, until the human rights of the Syrian people are respected and until they have the civil and human rights that they deserve. We know other countries have engaged with the regime. When those engagements happen, we don't support them, but we remind the countries that are engaged that they should be using their engagements to push forward on the shared international goals under 2254, and that whatever it is that they're doing should be for the sake of improving the situation of the Syrian people.

Question: Let's say that all of the countries decided to talk to Assad, aren’t you worried that the US will be alienated in the process?

Answer: The US will remain true to our own principles and our own policies and our own laws, and the path for the regime in Syria to change its relationship with us is very clear, if they change the behaviors that led to the laws that we have and to the policies that we have, if those behaviors change and the circumstances inside of Syria change, then it's possible to have a different kind of relationship, but that's where it has to start.

Question: My last question to you before you leave, if you have to pick one thing that you need to do in Syria today, what is it that you would like to see happening today?

Answer: So there are a number of things, I think that will always be left and that there are things that we will try to do, to try to make them happen. We want to hold people accountable in Syria for things that have happened. So even today, we observed something called the International Day for victims of enforced disappearances, there are people that are missing, and we're trying to draw attention to the need to account for the missing people. So our step today was to sanction a number of officials who were responsible for enforced disappearances, but we also created something called the independent institution for missing persons, and that helps the families, in the non-political way, get information on what's happened. So I'd like to see some peace for the families of the missing people. I'd like to see the beginning of a political process, there hasn't been a meeting of the constitutional committee in two years, and I think that's because the regime has not been cooperating in political process steps. So we need to change that situation. And I would, of course, like it's important to see the continuation of the things that we were talking about, so keeping ISIS from reemerging and maintaining assistance as necessary in the humanitarian sphere. So all these things, some of them are ongoing, and some of them remain to be achieved. But the Syrian people deserve all aspects of our policy to be fulfilled and for them to be able to return to a normal life.