Pascale Machaalani to Asharq Al-Awsat: No One Can be Called ‘Lebanon’s Top Singer’ with Fairouz Around

Pascale Machaalani.
Pascale Machaalani.
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Pascale Machaalani to Asharq Al-Awsat: No One Can be Called ‘Lebanon’s Top Singer’ with Fairouz Around

Pascale Machaalani.
Pascale Machaalani.

Lebanese singer Pascale Machaalani has released her new song “Jnan Bijnan” (Insanity over insanity), her first track for 2021. She also 30 years on the Arab music scene.

In an interview with Asharq Al-Awsat, Machaalani said that she wants to achieve great things in the coming period, including the release of an exciting new album. She stressed that she is not interested in being called “Lebanon’s top singer,” believing it would be disrespectful to be labeled as such while legendary Lebanese singers like Fairouz and Majida El Roumi are around.

What prompted you to make the song “Jnan Bijnan” your first of 2021?
I wanted my first song for the new year to carry a message of positive energy, joy and hope, as we’re currently living in times of crisis, especially with the Covid-19 pandemic and the aftermath of the August 4 Beirut port explosion. When the Egyptian poet Ramadan Mohammad wrote the lyrics for me, I liked them very much, and I immediately started recording the album in the studio of my husband, the composer Melhem Abu Shadid.

Can you tell us more about your new album?

My album has been ready for release on the market and online platforms for nearly a year and a half, but, as I have said, the conditions in the Arab world, especially in Lebanon, are not stable. However, I will release the album two weeks after Eid al-Fitr if the conditions over the next few weeks allow it. If not, then I would only release one song and postpone the rest of the album’s release until mid-summer. I collaborated with very well-known poets and composers from Egypt and Lebanon when producing my new album, which is actually a mini-album and not a complete one.

Can you tell us the differences that you have seen between the era when you first ascended onto the music scene in the 1990s and now?

Every era has its own distinctive events that define it. I first made my debut on the Arabic music scene at the end of 1992, a time when many Lebanese artists were facing many difficulties in making a name in the music industry because of the Lebanese civil war. However, what’s unique about that period is that we only had a few Arabic TV channels for publicity, so an ascending artist had to work very hard to ensure that the audiences remember their name. In my opinion, that’s the main reason why the stars of that era continue to be successful today, because they had to work hard for it and their names are engraved in stone, unlike the stars of today, who have it easy with online platforms. But their success lasting for long is not guaranteed.

What does Machaalani strive for after three decades in the music industry?

I’d like to do a large theatrical performance, similar to those of the artists Wadih El Safi and Sabah. I’d also like to produce a complete musical album, and finally, I hope I will have the opportunity to act in a film that combines romance and comedy.

Can you tell us why you’re not interested in being labeled as “Lebanon’s first singer”?

In the presence of icons like Fairouz, any other singer in the Arab world would come in second place. For me personally, I don’t care about titles because I believe that every artist has their own personality and voice that distinguishes them from the others.

Why have you been late to get into the film industry?

I think it is due to contingencies that I wasn’t able to fulfill my dream of acting. I once worked on a production that never saw the light of day because the producer and director were replaced in mid-production. I have no objections to acting, but if I decide to do it, it will be in a romantic comedy, not a drama, as I will show my true personality to the audience.

When will you consider retiring?

When my voice and my physical appearance fail me, and I’m not able to make good songs, I will announce my retirement, but so far, I have been able to continue in my career.



André 3000's Alt-Jazz, ‘No Bars’ Solo Album Stunned Fans. Now, It’s up for Grammys

André Benjamin, also known as Andre 3000, arrives at the 30th Film Independent Spirit Awards in Santa Monica, Calif., on Feb. 21, 2015. (AP)
André Benjamin, also known as Andre 3000, arrives at the 30th Film Independent Spirit Awards in Santa Monica, Calif., on Feb. 21, 2015. (AP)
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André 3000's Alt-Jazz, ‘No Bars’ Solo Album Stunned Fans. Now, It’s up for Grammys

André Benjamin, also known as Andre 3000, arrives at the 30th Film Independent Spirit Awards in Santa Monica, Calif., on Feb. 21, 2015. (AP)
André Benjamin, also known as Andre 3000, arrives at the 30th Film Independent Spirit Awards in Santa Monica, Calif., on Feb. 21, 2015. (AP)

No one was expecting it. Late last year, André 3000 released his debut solo album, "New Blue Sun," 18 years after his legendary rap group Outkast's last studio album, "Idlewild."

But "New Blue Sun" has "no bars," he jokes. It's a divergence from rap because "there was nothing I was liking enough to rap about, or I didn't feel it sounded fresh. I'm not about to serve you un-fresh (expletive.)"

Instead, he offered up a six-track instrumental album of ambient alt-jazz — with special attention paid to the flute.

"The sound, that's how I got into it," he says of the instrument. "The portability, too. You can't tote around a piano and play in Starbucks."

He's also invested in the flute's history — like learning about Mayan flutes made from clay, a design he had re-created in cedarwood. "There’s all kinds of fables and, you know, indigenous stories that go along with playing the flute — playing like the birds or playing your heart like the wind — it kind of met (me) where I was in life," he says.

"Flutes — wind instruments in general — are the closest thing you get to actually hearing a human," he continues. "You're actually hearing the breath of a person."

"New Blue Sun" is a stunning collection, one that has earned André 3000 three new Grammy Award nominations: album of the year, alternative jazz, and instrumental composition. Those arrive exactly 25 years after the 1999 Grammys, where Outkast received their first nomination — for "Rosa Parks," from their third album, "Aquemini" — and 20 years after the group won album of the year for "Speakerboxxx/The Love Below."

"It matters because we all want to be acknowledged or recognized," André 3000 says of his new Grammy nominations. "It's a type of proof of connection, in some type of way ... especially with the Grammys, because it's voted on by a committee of musicians and people in the industry."

He's a bit surprised by the attention, too, given the type of album he created. "We have no singles on the radio, not even singles that are hot in the street," he says. "When you're sitting next to Beyoncé and Taylor Swift, these are highly, hugely popular music artists, I'm satisfied just because of that ... we won just to be a part of the whole conversation."

He theorizes that it may be because popular music listening habits are broadening. "A lot of artists are just trying different things. Even, you know, the album that Beyoncé is nominated for, it’s not her normal thing," he says of her country-and-then-some record, "Cowboy Carter.We’re in this place where things are kind of shifting and moving."

For André 3000, "New Blue Sun" has allowed him to "feel like a whole new artist," but it is also an extension of who he's always been. "Being on the road with Outkast and picking up a bass clarinet at a pawn shop in New York and just sitting on the back of the bus playing with it — these things have been around," he says.

He's also always embraced "newness," as he puts it, experimenting creatively "even if it sounds non-masterful."

"Even producing for Outkast, I was just learning these instruments. If I ... put my hands down and play ‘Ms. Jackson,’ I'm not knowing what I'm playing. But I like it," he says.

As for a new Outkast album, "I never say never," he says. "But I can say that the older I get, I feel like that time has happened."