Jury's Duty in Depp-Heard Trial Doesn't Track Public Debate

This combination of two separate photos shows divorced actors Johnny Depp, left, and Amber Heard in the courtroom at the Fairfax County Circuit Court in Fairfax, Va., Tuesday May 3, 2022. (Jim Watson/Pool photos via AP)
This combination of two separate photos shows divorced actors Johnny Depp, left, and Amber Heard in the courtroom at the Fairfax County Circuit Court in Fairfax, Va., Tuesday May 3, 2022. (Jim Watson/Pool photos via AP)
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Jury's Duty in Depp-Heard Trial Doesn't Track Public Debate

This combination of two separate photos shows divorced actors Johnny Depp, left, and Amber Heard in the courtroom at the Fairfax County Circuit Court in Fairfax, Va., Tuesday May 3, 2022. (Jim Watson/Pool photos via AP)
This combination of two separate photos shows divorced actors Johnny Depp, left, and Amber Heard in the courtroom at the Fairfax County Circuit Court in Fairfax, Va., Tuesday May 3, 2022. (Jim Watson/Pool photos via AP)

A seven-person civil jury in Virginia will resume deliberations Tuesday in Johnny Depp's libel trial against Amber Heard. What the jury considers will be very different from the public debate that has engulfed the high-profile proceedings.

For six weeks, testimony focused on details of alleged abuse that Heard says she suffered at the hands of Depp. Heard has outlined more than a dozen specific instances where she says she was assaulted by Depp, The Associated Press said.

Depp has denied any physical or sexual abuse, and says Heard concocted the claims to destroy Depp's reputation. Depp's legions of online fans have focused on their belief that Heard has been untruthful, and that that will determine the outcome.

But the case itself is a defamation claim. Depp sued Heard for libel — for $50 million — in Fairfax County Circuit Court over a December 2018 op-ed she wrote in The Washington Post describing herself as “a public figure representing domestic abuse.”

That article never even mentions Depp by name, but his lawyers say he was defamed nonetheless. Most of the article discusses public policy as it relates to domestic violence, and Heard's lawyers say she has a First Amendment right to weigh in.

In closing arguments, though, Depp lawyer Camille Vasquez argued that Heard's free-speech rights have limits.

“The First Amendment doesn't protect lies that hurt and defame people,” she said.

Depp's lawyers point to two passages in the article that they say clearly refer to Depp.

In the first passage, Heard writes that “two years ago, I became a public figure representing domestic abuse, and I felt the full force of our culture’s wrath.” Depp’s lawyers call it a clear reference to Depp, given that Heard publicly accused Depp of domestic violence in 2016 — two years before she wrote the article.

In a second passage, she states, “I had the rare vantage point of seeing, in real time, how institutions protect men accused of abuse.” (Depp's lawyers are also seeking damages over a headline that appeared above the online version of the article, even though Heard didn't write it.)

The jury, which has to come to a unanimous decision for a verdict, must decide whether those passages in the Post are defamatory. And the verdict form gives them step-by-step instructions on how to determine that.

Heard's lawyers say they have presented a mountain of evidence that Heard was abused. But they say that even if the jury were somehow to believe that she was never abused even a single time, she should still prevail in the lawsuit.

That's because libel law spells out several factors that must be considered. First, the alleged defamatory statements have to be about the plaintiff. Heard's lawyers said the article is not about Depp at all. He's not mentioned, and they say the focus is on Heard's experience about the aftermath of speaking out. Those statements remain objectively true even if she wasn't in fact abused, her lawyers contend.

Depp's lawyers, though, say the two passages are clear references to Depp, given the publicity that surrounded their 2016 divorce proceedings.

In addition, because Depp is a public figure, Heard can only be found guilty of libel if the jury decides that Heard acted with “actual malice,” which requires clear and convincing evidence that she either knew what she was writing was false or that she acted with reckless disregard for the truth.

Heard lawyer J. Benjamin Rottenborn said during Friday's closing arguments that Heard carefully reviewed drafts of the article — the first draft was written not by her, but by the American Civil Liberties Union — with her lawyers to make sure that what was written passed legal muster. Rottenborn said that fact alone is sufficient proof that she didn't act with actual malice.

As for the abuse itself, Depp's lawyers tried to suggest to the jury that if they think Heard is lying or embellishing any of her abuse claims, that she can't be trusted and that all of her abuse claims must be dismissed as untrustworthy.

“You either believe all of it, or none of it,” Vasquez said. “Either she is a victim of ugly, horrible abuse, or she is a woman who is willing to say absolutely anything.”

In Heard’s closing, Rottenborn said the nitpicking over Heard’s evidence of abuse ignores the fact there’s overwhelming evidence on her behalf and sends a dangerous message to domestic-violence victims.

“If you didn’t take pictures, it didn’t happen,” Rottenborn said. “If you did take pictures, they’re fake. If you didn’t tell your friends, they’re lying. If you did tell your friends, they’re part of the hoax.”

And he rejected Vasquez’s suggestion that if the jury thinks Heard might be embellishing on a single act of abuse that they have to disregard everything she says. He said Depp’s libel claim must fail if Heard suffered even a single incident of abuse.

“They’re trying to trick you into thinking Amber has to be perfect to win,” Rottenborn said.



‘Outlander’ Prequel Series ‘Blood of My Blood’ Goes Back in Time Again to Meet the Parents

"Blood of My Blood" premiers on Friday. (Starz)
"Blood of My Blood" premiers on Friday. (Starz)
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‘Outlander’ Prequel Series ‘Blood of My Blood’ Goes Back in Time Again to Meet the Parents

"Blood of My Blood" premiers on Friday. (Starz)
"Blood of My Blood" premiers on Friday. (Starz)

In Starz's "Outlander," Caitriona Balfe's Claire Fraser is bold and brave. She can also think on her feet in high-pressure moments. Her husband Jamie Fraser, played by Sam Heughan, is protective and empathetic. In a new prequel series out Friday, called "Outlander: Blood of My Blood," we see how they each got that way.

"Blood of My Blood" tells the love story of Jamie's parents, Ellen and Brian, and Claire's parents, Julia and Henry. The characters are inspired by the stories of Diana Gabaldon but there are no novels for showrunner Matthew B. Roberts to follow. He also is the showrunner of the original series, which debuts its final season early next year.

With no source material "there’s a lot more room to play in," explained Roberts. In "Outlander,there are all these tentpole moments that we have to write to because that’s what our audience wants from the books."

The Frasers

In the books, Gabaldon mentions Jamie's parents in "breadcrumbs" said Roberts. "We stick to those, but the freedom is what can we do after that to get to essentially where 'Outlander' begins."

The big obstacle facing Jamie’s parents, Ellen and Brian, who meet in 18th century Scotland — is that they come from families that "don’t get on," said Harriet Slater, who plays Ellen. "They don’t mix. It’s completely forbidden. My father’s worst enemy was Brian’s father so I’m sure he’d have had some strong words to say about the whole thing."

Jamie Roy, who plays Brian, enjoys the duality of his character. There's the "tough, stoic, Highland warrior" who he says "rides around on horses and swings swords and stuff." Then there's this "lovely, gentle, poetic, romantic guy who wants nothing more than to take care of other people."

A few months ago Roy went back and rewatched episodes from season one of "Outlander," because he wanted to watch Heughan as his TV son.

"There’s so many people who had said there was resemblances about our performances and such. I was like, ’Well, let me see what Sam’s journey was like right at the start. And I kind of see what they mean."

The Beauchamps

Claire's parents Julia and Henry are mentioned even less in the books. They died in a car accident when Claire was young. We see them meet in "Blood of My Blood" during World War I. Henry was a soldier and Julia worked in postal censorship.

"When we meet him, he’s pretty much given up," said Jeremy Irvine, who plays Henry. "I think he’s accepted death really and doesn’t have anything to live for and sends this one last lifeline out in the form of an open letter back to England." Julia finds his letter at work and feels compelled to respond. The two end up falling in love while writing back-and-forth.

A series of events send Julia and Henry, like their daughter, back in time. They end up in the 1700s where Irvine explains they are "trying to live second by second."

"The time they’ve gone back to is not a friendly time to be an outsider at all. Being an outsider would likely mean death. Henry and Julia, as is Claire, are very quick-witted, fast-thinking, intelligent people. They survive by the skin of their teeth."

Season 2 of 'Blood of My Blood' is coming too

The cast is already in production on season two of "Blood of My Blood." Hermoine Corfield, who plays Julia, says it's been nice filming "in our own little secret bubble."

Promoting the series has been tricky because they have to remember what happened in season one versus season two.

"You almost forget what you did in season one because you’re already onto that next journey and storyline," said Corfield.