Griffiths to Asharq Al-Awsat: Climate, Conflict and Cost-of-living Threaten World’s Poorest

Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs and Emergency Relief Coordinator Martin Griffiths
Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs and Emergency Relief Coordinator Martin Griffiths
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Griffiths to Asharq Al-Awsat: Climate, Conflict and Cost-of-living Threaten World’s Poorest

Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs and Emergency Relief Coordinator Martin Griffiths
Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs and Emergency Relief Coordinator Martin Griffiths

Asharq Al-Awsat has asked Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs and Emergency Relief Coordinator Martin Griffiths about the three biggest threats the world’s poorest collectively face. His answer was: “Climate, conflict and cost-of-living. And they’re all connected.”

When asked about double standards in refugee treatment, the UN official told the newspaper in an interview conducted via email that “the United Nations welcomed the swift and generous European response to the plight of Ukrainian refugees. This is how it should be for all refugees, all of whom need access to asylum, without discrimination. As UNHCR has repeatedly stressed, respecting refugee rights is a legal and moral obligation, and it should never be contingent on nationality.”

On fighting poverty, he said: “It is becoming more expensive to buy and transport the assistance, meaning our aid reach fewer people, or people get less aid, or both.”

Here's the full text of the interview:

The UN has issued repeated warnings of food shortages. What countries are most at risk of rising levels of hunger?

This year, food security prospects are alarmingly bad and getting worse in many parts of the world. In the highest-alert countries - Afghanistan, Ethiopia, Somalia, South Sudan and Yemen - three quarters of a million people are just one step away from the ultimate catastrophic situation, a famine.

They are not the only ones at risk. The number of acutely food insecure people has jumped to a new high of 345 million people in 82 countries this year, according to the World Food Programme.

The causes of hunger are many and often intertwined.

Conflict and displacement are the biggest problem. Sixty percent of under-nourished people live in conflict-affected countries.

Extreme weather due to the climate crisis is also a major driver of hunger. Parts of the Horn of Africa have experienced four consecutive failed rainy seasons and are now confronting a fifth, creating the worst drought situation in 40 years. In Afghanistan, people are experiencing the worst drought in 30 years.

The conflict in Ukraine has led to a global cost-of-living crisis, with disrupted supplies and high prices of food, fuel and fertilizers.

And all these things are happening at a time when the pandemic had already made the world’s poor more vulnerable.

Is the war in Ukraine causing the food shortages? If so, what can be done to protect the most vulnerable?

The war is leading to pressure on an already highly stressed global food system by pushing up the price of wheat, maize, fuel and fertilizer and disrupting supply systems.

The countries that are hit the hardest are those heavily dependent on imported grain, for example Yemen, where 19 million people are food insecure. Lebanon and the Occupied Palestinian Territory are also facing mounting humanitarian crises. In Africa, Cameroon, Somalia and Sudan are also very severely affected and in some of these countries, families spend up to 80 percent of their daily income on food.

In all countries where we have humanitarian programs, it is becoming more expensive to buy and transport the assistance, meaning our aid reach fewer people, or people get less aid, or both.

Despite these mounting challenges, humanitarians have this year provided food aid to about 6.5 million people across Africa’s Horn, to 19 million in Afghanistan and to 11 million each month in Yemen, among many other places.

We call for Governments to support the free flow of food and energy in open markets. That includes releasing surplus supplies and lifting any impediments to exporting food and fertilizer from Ukraine and Russia.

But in a hunger crisis, people need more than food aid. They need a comprehensive assistance package, including healthcare, clean water, education, protection and livelihoods support.

The response to the Ukrainian refugee crisis was extraordinarily generous and efficient. However, it did raise questions about double standards in refugee treatment. How do you view this issue?

The United Nations welcomed the swift and generous European response to the plight of Ukrainian refugees. This is how it should be for all refugees, all of whom need access to asylum, without discrimination. As UNHCR has repeatedly stressed, respecting refugee rights is a legal and moral obligation, and it should never be contingent on nationality.

Neighboring countries are usually the ones to step up most generously to host refugees – think of Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan and Iraq hosting Syrian refugees, Kenya hosting Somalis and South Sudanese, Bangladesh hosting Rohingya refugees from Myanmar

What would you say are the three biggest threats the world’s poorest collectively face?

Climate, conflict and cost-of-living. And they’re all connected.

The climate crisis is an existential threat to the whole of humanity but is disproportionately hitting vulnerable countries.

We are increasingly seeing the damage caused by the combination of climate change and conflict. Last year for instance, 10 of the 15 countries considered most vulnerable and least ready to adapt to climate change were experiencing some form of conflict. Rich countries, whose emissions have contributed most to the climate crisis, must live up to their climate financing commitments of $100 billion annually to developing countries for climate action.

The global cost-of-living crisis is already causing more poverty, hunger and malnutrition, threatening lives. We urgently need to see the kinds of social protection solutions that many Governments implemented during the pandemic, combined with debt relief for at-risk countries, and far greater investment in basic services, which are key to resilient communities.

Could you describe the most pressing humanitarian needs in the MENA region? What is the most important role that the UN is playing in this part of the world that is plagued with conflicts?

Yemen is at a critical juncture, with the truce offering a real chance to resume political discussions and end the war. It is extremely important to maintain and accelerate the momentum behind it. But even with this truce, we cannot lose sight of the enormous economic and humanitarian crisis that persists. More than 19 million people are hungry and aid agencies are only 25 percent funded. We also need to leverage funds to contain the threat of a catastrophic oil spill from the SAFER oil tanker, which is becoming more dangerous by the hour.

Second, in Syria we see with devastating clarity what 11 years of war will do to a country. The Syrian people need a way out of this war so they can start to rebuild their lives and futures, yet they’re still stuck in a cycle of humanitarian suffering, with 90 percent of the population now below the poverty line. Recovery and rebuilding are well overdue.

The financial and economic crisis in Lebanon is causing hunger and suffering to mount, raising great concern across the international community. Rising food and fuel prices are also slamming the Occupied Palestinian Territory, which is straining both UNRWA and WFP.

To sustain current operations until the end of the year, WFP requires an additional $36 million. Facing similar constraints across the OPT and the region, UNRWA’s shortfall remains at $100 million. The alarming levels of violence are also a huge cause of concern, including the use of lethal force by Israeli security forces against Palestinians, resulting in a significant number of Palestinians killed and injured.

As Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs, you have a large portfolio on your hands. What are your priorities?

First, we need better accountability to the people we set out to serve - this needs to be the central prism of humanitarian action. Accountability involves getting better at understanding people’s needs and being far more flexible to shift course when needs change, to meet those needs.

Second and linked to this, we need to make the humanitarian enterprise less Northern, and more local. We need to work with a new generation of local and national NGOs by giving them more direct support and making space for them at the table where decisions are made.

Third, we need to fully finance humanitarian action and protect development assistance to meet mounting needs. Humanitarians have prevented famine from taking hold in South Sudan, Yemen and Somalia over recent years and we can do it again if we have the resources. But the Humanitarian Response Plans we coordinate, and are our main fundraising tool, currently face an 80 percent funding gap overall. That translates into delays, cuts in assistance and needless suffering.

The entire humanitarian system, including donor countries, needs to be better prepared and resourced to take anticipatory and early action to stave off mass crisis and suffering before they get severe. This of course saves lives but it also cuts costs.
Finally, allowing civilians access to the help they need must be a priority. It is becoming harder to reach people in conflicts. Humanitarian organizations must devote more time and resources to attaining humanitarian access – through building trust and acceptance and negotiating with parties to conflict. This work takes persistence and patience.



Goldrich to Asharq Al-Awsat: No US Withdrawal from Syria

US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat
US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat
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Goldrich to Asharq Al-Awsat: No US Withdrawal from Syria

US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat
US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat

Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich has told Asharq Al-Awsat that the US does not plan to withdraw its forces from Syria.

The US is committed to “the partnership that we have with the local forces that we work with,” he said.

Here is the full text of the interview.

Question: Mr. Goldrich, thank you so much for taking the time to sit with us today. I know you are leaving your post soon. How do you assess the accomplishments and challenges remaining?

Answer: Thank you very much for the chance to talk with you today. I've been in this position for three years, and so at the end of three years, I can see that there's a lot that we accomplished and a lot that we have left to do. But at the beginning of a time I was here, we had just completed a review of our Syria policy, and we saw that we needed to focus on reducing suffering for the people in Syria. We needed to reduce violence. We needed to hold the regime accountable for things that are done and most importantly, from the US perspective, we needed to keep ISIS from reemerging as a threat to our country and to other countries. At the same time, we also realized that there wouldn't be a solution to the crisis until there was a political process under resolution 2254, so in each of these areas, we've seen both progress and challenges, but of course, on ISIS, we have prevented the reemergence of the threat from northeast Syria, and we've helped deal with people that needed to be repatriated out of the prisons, and we dealt with displaced people in al-Hol to reduce the numbers there. We helped provide for stabilization in those parts of Syria.

Question: I want to talk a little bit about the ISIS situation now that the US troops are still there, do you envision a timeline where they will be withdrawn? Because there were some reports in the press that there is a plan from the Biden administration to withdraw.

Answer: Yeah. So right now, our focus is on the mission that we have there to keep ISIS from reemerging. So I know there have been reports, but I want to make clear that we remain committed to the role that we play in that part of Syria, to the partnership that we have with the local forces that we work with, and to the need to prevent that threat from reemerging.

Question: So you can assure people who are saying that you might withdraw, that you are remaining for the time being?

Answer: Yes, and that we remain committed to this mission which needs to continue to be pursued.

Question: You also mentioned the importance of humanitarian aid. The US has been leading on this. Are you satisfied with where you are today on the humanitarian front in Syria?

Answer: We remain committed to the role that we play to provide for humanitarian assistance in Syria. Of the money that was pledged in Brussels, we pledged $593 million just this past spring, and we overall, since the beginning of the conflict, have provided $18 billion both to help the Syrians who are inside of Syria and to help the refugees who are in surrounding countries. And so we remain committed to providing that assistance, and we remain keenly aware that 90% of Syrians are living in poverty right now, and that there's been suffering there. We're doing everything we can to reduce the suffering, but I think where we would really like to be is where there's a larger solution to the whole crisis, so Syrian people someday will be able to provide again for themselves and not need this assistance.

Question: And that's a perfect key to my next question. Solution in Syria. you are aware that the countries in the region are opening up to Assad again, and you also have the EU signaling overture to the Syrian regime and Assad. How do you deal with that?

Answer: For the United States, our policy continues to be that we will not normalize with the regime in Syria until there's been authentic and enduring progress on the goals of resolution 2254, until the human rights of the Syrian people are respected and until they have the civil and human rights that they deserve. We know other countries have engaged with the regime. When those engagements happen, we don't support them, but we remind the countries that are engaged that they should be using their engagements to push forward on the shared international goals under 2254, and that whatever it is that they're doing should be for the sake of improving the situation of the Syrian people.

Question: Let's say that all of the countries decided to talk to Assad, aren’t you worried that the US will be alienated in the process?

Answer: The US will remain true to our own principles and our own policies and our own laws, and the path for the regime in Syria to change its relationship with us is very clear, if they change the behaviors that led to the laws that we have and to the policies that we have, if those behaviors change and the circumstances inside of Syria change, then it's possible to have a different kind of relationship, but that's where it has to start.

Question: My last question to you before you leave, if you have to pick one thing that you need to do in Syria today, what is it that you would like to see happening today?

Answer: So there are a number of things, I think that will always be left and that there are things that we will try to do, to try to make them happen. We want to hold people accountable in Syria for things that have happened. So even today, we observed something called the International Day for victims of enforced disappearances, there are people that are missing, and we're trying to draw attention to the need to account for the missing people. So our step today was to sanction a number of officials who were responsible for enforced disappearances, but we also created something called the independent institution for missing persons, and that helps the families, in the non-political way, get information on what's happened. So I'd like to see some peace for the families of the missing people. I'd like to see the beginning of a political process, there hasn't been a meeting of the constitutional committee in two years, and I think that's because the regime has not been cooperating in political process steps. So we need to change that situation. And I would, of course, like it's important to see the continuation of the things that we were talking about, so keeping ISIS from reemerging and maintaining assistance as necessary in the humanitarian sphere. So all these things, some of them are ongoing, and some of them remain to be achieved. But the Syrian people deserve all aspects of our policy to be fulfilled and for them to be able to return to a normal life.