French Ambassador to Yemen Sounds Alarm Over Houthi Recruitment of Children

French ambassador to Yemen Jean-Marie Safa (Photo: Omar Hogail)
French ambassador to Yemen Jean-Marie Safa (Photo: Omar Hogail)
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French Ambassador to Yemen Sounds Alarm Over Houthi Recruitment of Children

French ambassador to Yemen Jean-Marie Safa (Photo: Omar Hogail)
French ambassador to Yemen Jean-Marie Safa (Photo: Omar Hogail)

French ambassador to Yemen Jean-Marie Safa said that his embassy was in contact with the Houthis, but accused the group of communicating with the world through people who do not have a decision-making capacity.

In an interview with Asharq Al-Awsat, Safa said that the Houthis’ recruitment of children have reached terrifying levels, citing UN reports.

On the other hand, he praised the efforts of the Presidential Council, stressing that the Yemeni government embodied a project of a pluralistic republican state that respects the diversity of Yemeni society and puts the interest of the people above all considerations.

According to the ambassador, the legitimate government was acting with a sense of responsibility towards its people and the international community by overcoming divisions for the common good. It also seeks to correct its mistakes and fight corruption, he underlined.

In this context, Safa pointed to a recent UN report which lauded the government’s efforts to combat children recruitment that has reached alarming levels.

The French official noted that the UN-sponsored truce was a breath of fresh air for the Yemeni people, who have been exhausted by eight years of war.

Blaming the Houthis for obstructing the extension of the truce, Safa said that their strategy was clear, which is to overthrow the government by all means.

The ambassador emphasized that ending the suffering of the Yemeni people could only be achieved through peaceful means.

In this context, he noted that the Houthis must engage in peace talks with the government under the auspices of the UN Special Envoy, Hans Grundberg.

Asked about the Houthi reaction to France’s recent condemnation of the group, Safa noted that the Houthis were trying to play the victim before the international community, stressing that this approach was no longer convincing.

He accused the group of establishing a system of terror and destroying the Yemeni society and tribal values that protect women.

Houthi regime’s violations in Sanaa are of concern to the entire international community, Safa warned, saying that some were comparing them to the Taliban movement in Afghanistan.

He revealed that the French embassy was in contact with the Houthis, saying that he had known the group for a long time. He also said that he has met with Abdel-Malik al-Houthi in February 2012, when he was serving as deputy ambassador to the European Union.

However, he noted that this communication has become more difficult due to the group’s behavior, with the Houthis imposing on the international community specific channels of discussion with people who do not have the authority to make decisions.

The ambassador went on to accuse the group of closing the door in the face of any real dialogue.

Safa said that France welcomed all ongoing efforts to renew the truce and put the political process back on track under the auspices of the United Nations.

He added that his country strongly supported the efforts of the UN Special Envoy, Hans Grundberg, and commended the endeavor of the Gulf Cooperation Council and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, to bring all Yemeni parties around the same negotiating table under UN auspices.

The ambassador told Asharq Al-Awsat that France also saluted the active role of the Sultanate of Oman, which he said assumed a fundamental role in favor of moderation and peace.

Safa touched on the role of Iran in Yemen, saying that Tehran contributed negatively in the various crises rocking the region.

In Yemen, the Iranians clearly have influence over the Houthis, he said, especially their hardline wing. In this regard, he stressed that France hoped to see this influence used in the interest of peace.

The ambassador said that the world was beginning to open its eyes to the nature of the Houthi activities, highlighting the growing concern within the international community about the violations of the Houthi regime and their attacks on women, children, state employees, culture and tribal values.

Asked about France’s cooperation with the coalition countries at the political and humanitarian levels, Safa said his country was communicating with all parties inside and outside Yemen, emphasizing that the Houthis were the only side obstructing national reconciliation.

The ambassador stressed the need to support the efforts exerted by the Presidency Council to restore a state that serves all Yemenis.

He said that the chairman of the Council, Dr. Rashad Al-Alimi, was a wise, patriotic and consensual man, who defended the higher interests of the country.

Safa voiced his country’s call on all Yemeni components to overcome their divisions and work together in harmony for the benefit of all.

Commenting on the recent Houthi attacks on oil facilities, he said that France has very clearly condemned the attacks, while the United Nations Security Council described them as terrorist acts.

The Houthi strategy is clear, the ambassador remarked. They seek to strangle the government economically by imposing a quasi-blockade through attacks aimed at preventing any export of oil from government-controlled ports, he told Asharq Al-Awsat.

He also voiced concern over the threat the Houthis pose to international maritime trade. The Houthis cross unacceptable red lines, he noted, calling on the group to realize that this path of violence was against the interest of peace, the Yemenis, and their own interest.



Goldrich to Asharq Al-Awsat: No US Withdrawal from Syria

US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat
US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat
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Goldrich to Asharq Al-Awsat: No US Withdrawal from Syria

US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat
US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat

Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich has told Asharq Al-Awsat that the US does not plan to withdraw its forces from Syria.

The US is committed to “the partnership that we have with the local forces that we work with,” he said.

Here is the full text of the interview.

Question: Mr. Goldrich, thank you so much for taking the time to sit with us today. I know you are leaving your post soon. How do you assess the accomplishments and challenges remaining?

Answer: Thank you very much for the chance to talk with you today. I've been in this position for three years, and so at the end of three years, I can see that there's a lot that we accomplished and a lot that we have left to do. But at the beginning of a time I was here, we had just completed a review of our Syria policy, and we saw that we needed to focus on reducing suffering for the people in Syria. We needed to reduce violence. We needed to hold the regime accountable for things that are done and most importantly, from the US perspective, we needed to keep ISIS from reemerging as a threat to our country and to other countries. At the same time, we also realized that there wouldn't be a solution to the crisis until there was a political process under resolution 2254, so in each of these areas, we've seen both progress and challenges, but of course, on ISIS, we have prevented the reemergence of the threat from northeast Syria, and we've helped deal with people that needed to be repatriated out of the prisons, and we dealt with displaced people in al-Hol to reduce the numbers there. We helped provide for stabilization in those parts of Syria.

Question: I want to talk a little bit about the ISIS situation now that the US troops are still there, do you envision a timeline where they will be withdrawn? Because there were some reports in the press that there is a plan from the Biden administration to withdraw.

Answer: Yeah. So right now, our focus is on the mission that we have there to keep ISIS from reemerging. So I know there have been reports, but I want to make clear that we remain committed to the role that we play in that part of Syria, to the partnership that we have with the local forces that we work with, and to the need to prevent that threat from reemerging.

Question: So you can assure people who are saying that you might withdraw, that you are remaining for the time being?

Answer: Yes, and that we remain committed to this mission which needs to continue to be pursued.

Question: You also mentioned the importance of humanitarian aid. The US has been leading on this. Are you satisfied with where you are today on the humanitarian front in Syria?

Answer: We remain committed to the role that we play to provide for humanitarian assistance in Syria. Of the money that was pledged in Brussels, we pledged $593 million just this past spring, and we overall, since the beginning of the conflict, have provided $18 billion both to help the Syrians who are inside of Syria and to help the refugees who are in surrounding countries. And so we remain committed to providing that assistance, and we remain keenly aware that 90% of Syrians are living in poverty right now, and that there's been suffering there. We're doing everything we can to reduce the suffering, but I think where we would really like to be is where there's a larger solution to the whole crisis, so Syrian people someday will be able to provide again for themselves and not need this assistance.

Question: And that's a perfect key to my next question. Solution in Syria. you are aware that the countries in the region are opening up to Assad again, and you also have the EU signaling overture to the Syrian regime and Assad. How do you deal with that?

Answer: For the United States, our policy continues to be that we will not normalize with the regime in Syria until there's been authentic and enduring progress on the goals of resolution 2254, until the human rights of the Syrian people are respected and until they have the civil and human rights that they deserve. We know other countries have engaged with the regime. When those engagements happen, we don't support them, but we remind the countries that are engaged that they should be using their engagements to push forward on the shared international goals under 2254, and that whatever it is that they're doing should be for the sake of improving the situation of the Syrian people.

Question: Let's say that all of the countries decided to talk to Assad, aren’t you worried that the US will be alienated in the process?

Answer: The US will remain true to our own principles and our own policies and our own laws, and the path for the regime in Syria to change its relationship with us is very clear, if they change the behaviors that led to the laws that we have and to the policies that we have, if those behaviors change and the circumstances inside of Syria change, then it's possible to have a different kind of relationship, but that's where it has to start.

Question: My last question to you before you leave, if you have to pick one thing that you need to do in Syria today, what is it that you would like to see happening today?

Answer: So there are a number of things, I think that will always be left and that there are things that we will try to do, to try to make them happen. We want to hold people accountable in Syria for things that have happened. So even today, we observed something called the International Day for victims of enforced disappearances, there are people that are missing, and we're trying to draw attention to the need to account for the missing people. So our step today was to sanction a number of officials who were responsible for enforced disappearances, but we also created something called the independent institution for missing persons, and that helps the families, in the non-political way, get information on what's happened. So I'd like to see some peace for the families of the missing people. I'd like to see the beginning of a political process, there hasn't been a meeting of the constitutional committee in two years, and I think that's because the regime has not been cooperating in political process steps. So we need to change that situation. And I would, of course, like it's important to see the continuation of the things that we were talking about, so keeping ISIS from reemerging and maintaining assistance as necessary in the humanitarian sphere. So all these things, some of them are ongoing, and some of them remain to be achieved. But the Syrian people deserve all aspects of our policy to be fulfilled and for them to be able to return to a normal life.