Aguila Saleh to Asharq Al-Awsat: Haftar, Sarraj Meeting is Impossible

Libyan parliament Speaker Aguila Saleh. (Reuters)
Libyan parliament Speaker Aguila Saleh. (Reuters)
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Aguila Saleh to Asharq Al-Awsat: Haftar, Sarraj Meeting is Impossible

Libyan parliament Speaker Aguila Saleh. (Reuters)
Libyan parliament Speaker Aguila Saleh. (Reuters)

Libyan parliament Speaker Aguila Saleh blamed “some forces in the international community” for the failure of holding the elections in his country.

In an interview with Asharq Al-Awsat from Cairo, Saleh said Libyans should be encouraged to cast their ballots without foreign intervention.

“The political path from the beginning was wrong, and then the end will be certainly wrong,” he said, explaining: “The former UN envoy, Martin Kobler, was supposed to assist Libya in enforcing the laws regulating the authorities, especially as it is an independent state with laws, an elected parliament, a constitution and courts. The transition of power in these cases is known.”

“But what happened was that the Muslim Brotherhood did not get seats in parliament, so they revolted; the international community disregarded the constitution and the elected parliament, and it started dealing with a government of its choice,” Saleh noted.

“Therefore, the Libyan people cannot accept a government that was imposed by international agreement and not by their own choice. The UN mediator was supposed to be a fair mediator for all parties, not just an employee of the United Nations and international community,” he added.

Asked about the Skheirat agreement, which was signed by the Libyan parties in December 2015, Saleh noted that the Libyan people did not delegate those who participated in the agreement.

“Legitimacy is granted by the people, not by foreign forces… These mistakes led to the delay of the political solution in Libya. Today we need to remove everyone’s hands off Libya. Assistance should only be in the elections,” he emphasized.

The speaker stressed that there would be no return to the Skheirat agreement.

“But we want to go to the elections. If [Government of National Accord head Fayez] al-Sarraj has popularity, he has to resort to the ballot boxes,” he said.

On whether the current situation was adequate for holding the polls, he noted that 85 percent of the population supported this demand.

“It is the only road that will lead to a solution,” he said. “The Libyans reject all that is imposed on them from abroad. We are a united people and a cohesive social fabric, but foreign interference is distorting this cohesion.”

He said he expected the elections to be held at the beginning of 2020, adding that the Libyan National Army (LNA), African Union and international community could handle necessary security arrangements.

On Washington’s efforts to hold a meeting between LNA commander Khalifa Haftar and Presidential Council chief Sarraj, he remarked: “A meeting between them is impossible, especially after Libyans were killed and the head of the Presidential Council was blamed for it.”

Asked about his relationship with UN envoy, Ghassan Salame, Saleh emphasized that he was biased to the GNA, “which is not considered as a party to dialogue.”

“The parliament has already rejected this government and has not given it its confidence,” he added.

Furthermore, he accused Qatar and Turkey of supporting groups in Tripoli that the LNA considers "terrorist", noting that the army should “carry out its duty towards the security and stability of the homeland.”



Al-Sharaa to Asharq Al-Awsat: Revolution Ended with Regime’s Fall, Will Not Be Exported

Ahmed Al-Sharaa in the interview with Bissane El-Cheikh in Damascus on Thursday
Ahmed Al-Sharaa in the interview with Bissane El-Cheikh in Damascus on Thursday
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Al-Sharaa to Asharq Al-Awsat: Revolution Ended with Regime’s Fall, Will Not Be Exported

Ahmed Al-Sharaa in the interview with Bissane El-Cheikh in Damascus on Thursday
Ahmed Al-Sharaa in the interview with Bissane El-Cheikh in Damascus on Thursday

Ahmed Al-Sharaa, the head of the new Syrian administration, told Asharq Al-Awsat that “the Syrian revolution ended with the regime's fall, and we will not allow it to spread elsewhere.”

He stressed that Syria “will not be used to attack or destabilize any Arab or Gulf country.”

Speaking from the Presidential Palace in Damascus on Thursday, Al-Sharaa said the Syrian opposition’s actions had “set the Iranian project in the region back by 40 years.”

Asked why Syria has yet to send a direct message to the Gulf and major Arab nations, Al-Sharaa responded by saying that his country has much to say to its Arab neighbors.

“Syria had become a platform for Iran to control key Arab capitals, spread wars, and destabilize the Gulf with drugs like Captagon,” he said.

He added: “By removing Iranian militias and closing Syria to Iranian influence, we’ve served the region’s interests—achieving what diplomacy and external pressure could not, with minimal losses.”

Al-Sharaa also criticized efforts to restore ties with the former Syrian regime, including its return to the Arab League in exchange for concessions.

“We were confident this would fail because we knew the regime would not make any genuine concessions or approach these overtures in good faith,” he said.

He claimed that during a meeting with Jordanian officials, the former regime was asked why it insisted on exporting Captagon to Jordan.

“The response was that it would not stop unless sanctions were lifted," Al-Sharaa said, adding “this is not how the regime operates.”

He emphasized that Gulf strategic security has since improved. “Today, the Iranian project in the region has been pushed back 40 years, making the Gulf more secure and stable.”

When asked if he would give reassurances on Syria not becoming a refuge for certain figures, Al-Sharaa dismissed concerns about hosting figures who cause concern for some Arab nations, saying Syria will not become a haven for controversial individuals.

“We are now focused on state-building. The revolution ended with the regime's fall, and we will not allow it to spread elsewhere. Syria will not be a platform to threaten or unsettle any Arab or Gulf country,” he said.

Al-Sharaa stressed that Syria seeks to rebuild and strengthen ties with Arab nations. “Syria is tired of wars and being used for others’ agendas. We want to restore trust and rebuild our country as part of the Arab world.”

He praised the Gulf’s progress, saying: “We admire the development in Gulf countries, particularly Saudi Arabia’s bold plans and vision, and we aspire to achieve similar progress for Syria.”

He added: “There are many opportunities for cooperation, especially in economic and developmental areas, where we can align our goals.”

On Syria’s relationship with its neighbor Lebanon, Al-Sharaa acknowledged concerns raised by Lebanese counterparts about him reaching Damascus, fearing it could strengthen one faction over another in Lebanon.

“We are not seeking any form of dominance over Lebanon,” he said. “We want a relationship based on mutual respect and exchange, without interfering in Lebanon’s internal affairs. We have enough work to do in our own country.”

Al-Sharaa emphasized Syria’s intention to maintain balanced relations, saying he aims “to stand equally with all Lebanese groups, and what pleases them, pleases us.”

Al-Sharaa was asked about a national dialogue conference and a new constitution to guide Syria’s future, and the mechanism that he plans to ensure inclusivity for all Syrians in the process, especially among the base of supporters and fighters who do not necessarily agree with his current moderate speech.

Al-Sharaa acknowledged differing opinions but emphasized he does not want to impose his personal views on Syrians.

“I believe in letting legal experts shape the relationship between citizens, with the law as the guide,” he said.

“Syria is diverse, and it's natural for there to be different opinions. This difference is healthy.”

Al-Sharaa stressed that the recent victory is for all Syrians, not one group over another.

“Even those we thought were loyal to the old regime expressed joy, as they had not been able to openly express their feelings before,” he noted.

He expressed confidence that Syrians, regardless of their background, are aware enough to protect their country.

“My aim is to reach a broad agreement and build a country where the rule of law helps resolve our differences,” Al-Sharaa concluded.

On the complex issue of forced disappearances and individuals missing in prisons and mass graves, Al-Sharaa said the previous regime was a criminal gang, not a political system.

“We fought a brutal group that committed crimes like arrests, forced disappearances, killings, displacement, starvation, chemical attacks, and torture,” he said.

He stressed that while the regime is gone, the focus should be on justice, not revenge.

“We must not approach this with a desire for vengeance,” he said.

Al-Sharaa stated that those responsible for crimes like the Saydnaya prison and chemical attacks must be held accountable.

“Their names are known and they must be pursued,” he said. He also affirmed that families have the right to file complaints against unknown perpetrators.

Al-Sharaa outlined efforts to address the issue of missing persons. “We’ve broken the barriers, and specialized organizations are now helping with this task,” he said.

A new ministry will be set up to track the fate of the missing, both the deceased and the living.

“This will also assist families with documents like death certificates and inheritance,” he added.

He acknowledged the challenge ahead but emphasized the need to uncover the truth. “This is a big task, but we must find the truth,” Al-Sharaa said.

When asked about hosting the interview at the People’s Palace, the same location where Bashar al-Assad once sat, Al-Sharaa responded with a light-hearted laugh.

“To be honest, I don’t feel comfortable at all,” he said. “But this is a place that should be open to the people, a site where they can visit and where children can play in these courtyards.”