Criticism of Diego Simeone's Atlético Methods Rooted in Football Snobbery

 Diego Simeone, the Atlético Madrid manager celebrates his side’s second goal at Anfield. Photograph: Julian Finney/Getty Images
Diego Simeone, the Atlético Madrid manager celebrates his side’s second goal at Anfield. Photograph: Julian Finney/Getty Images
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Criticism of Diego Simeone's Atlético Methods Rooted in Football Snobbery

 Diego Simeone, the Atlético Madrid manager celebrates his side’s second goal at Anfield. Photograph: Julian Finney/Getty Images
Diego Simeone, the Atlético Madrid manager celebrates his side’s second goal at Anfield. Photograph: Julian Finney/Getty Images

The acid reflux of defeat was rising in Jürgen Klopp’s throat, and you could tell he was trying to swallow it down before it went any further. “I realise I am a really bad loser,” he admitted. “They beat us, and we have to accept that. We accept that, of course.”

Given what else the Liverpool manager would say following Liverpool’s 3-2 defeat to Atlético Madrid on Wednesday night, you have to wonder exactly how Klopp defines not accepting it. Shock, disappointment, a sense of smouldering injustice: all these are accepted and acceptable tropes for the manager of a team who have had 34 shots at goal, won the xG 3.52-1.18 on the night, and nevertheless been dumped out of Europe at the first knockout stage.

But there was something else too: a sneering superciliousness, an ambitious pitch for the moral high ground in a competition sponsored by Gazprom. “It doesn’t feel right,” Klopp continued. “I don’t understand, with the quality they have, that they play this kind of football. World-class players defend with two rows of four, and two strikers in front of them. When I see players like Koke, Saúl [Ñíguez], [Marcos] Llorente, they could play proper football. And they stand deep in their own half and they have counterattacks.”

It is worth unpacking what this means in practice. Over eight years under Diego Simeone, Atlético Madrid have cultivated, by painstaking degrees and with ruthless drilling, a system that is not just a part of the club’s identity but the driving force behind the greatest era of success in its history. Klopp is essentially arguing that they should discard all this in favour of a proactive, expansive style that would make it far easier for teams like Liverpool to beat them. It is a position, to be sure, but not one anybody else is obliged to take remotely seriously.

Indeed, when Klopp would later say that “when you see a team like Atlético playing the way they play, that’s the most difficult thing to face”, he was largely undermining his own point. The very reason Atlético play the way they do in these games is because it takes oppositions into places and situations that they would rather not go. “We try to exploit deficiencies in the opponent,” was Simeone’s economical response. “That’s what we do. And we try to win, with all our soul.”

It is tempting to log Klopp’s disapproval as nothing more than sour grapes. There is, after all, a difference between setting your team up to defend and defending well, and giving up 11 shots on target and another two against the woodwork is nobody’s idea of a classic Atlético rearguard.

Meanwhile, this was the first time in three years that Atlético had scored three away from home in the Champions League. It has happened in La Liga only once in the past year. Liverpool’s chagrin will partly stem from the fact that they – and in particular their goalkeeper Adrián – were authors of their own demise. Atlético’s biggest sin was to get lucky.

And yet there is a wider and more ingrained point worth addressing: the underlying disdain with which we talk about teams like Atlético, the idea that to attack is divine and to defend is profane, that attacking football – or more accurately, possession-based attacking football – is somehow purer, more impressive, more beautiful, perhaps even more moral. In a sense this is a debate as old as football itself: to what extent is it a sporting contest in which the sole purpose is to score one more goal than your opponent? And to what extent an art or an entertainment, in which questions of aesthetics and taste and perhaps even politics must necessarily impinge?

On BT Sport, Michael Owen enthusiastically took up the theme, although not in those exact terms. “I don’t think there’s anything genius about setting your team up to defend,” he snapped. “Genius is what Pep Guardiola does. Genius is what Jürgen Klopp does: being expansive, no matter what you face. Loads of men behind the ball? And great players, at that? I respect it, but I don’t think it’s genius.”

Perhaps as a striker, Owen is not overly familiar with the mechanics of organising a defence. But the glibness on display demonstrates a wider assumption: that defensive organisation is essentially easy, or at least a form of unskilled labour. Those who have played under Simeone tell a different story: of the ceaseless focus on tactics and positioning and the interface between movement and space, of the undervalued role of Simeone’s mental conditioning in forging a collective consciousness and deterring lapses in concentration. This may or not stack up with your precise definition of genius. But to deny the weight of intellect behind it smacks either of ignorance or snobbery.

Is it ugly? Is it immoral? Is it anti-football? Simeone himself is certainly no saint as a coach, and often the gamesmanship of his teams is woven into a broader narrative of “dark arts” and iniquity. In a low-scoring sport, perhaps it was inevitable that defensive football would take on an impious ring, but a more recent consequence has been an increasingly fundamentalist view of what football actually is. Since when was football purely about attacking? Since when did goals and dribbles and expression become the sole currency of the game? Since when did having a really good goalkeeper leave the realm of tactics and enter the realm of deus ex machina?

The relationship between form and function, beauty and purpose, has exercised thinkers since the dawn of human history. There is a crude function to what Simeone’s Atlético do, but a beauty too: the co-ordination and choreography of a team, the submission of individual whim to the collective good, the sight of an underdog in the age of the superclubs, taking on the history and financial might of Europe’s giants, and – every so often – tearing them down from their perch. If that is not proper football, then what is?

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Iraola Says Too Soon for Title Talk as In-Form Liverpool Welcome Arsenal

Liverpool manager Andoni Iraola applauds to supporters after winning the English Premier League match between Liverpool FC and Brighton & Hove Albion, in Liverpool, Britain, 25 October 2026. (EPA)
Liverpool manager Andoni Iraola applauds to supporters after winning the English Premier League match between Liverpool FC and Brighton & Hove Albion, in Liverpool, Britain, 25 October 2026. (EPA)
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Iraola Says Too Soon for Title Talk as In-Form Liverpool Welcome Arsenal

Liverpool manager Andoni Iraola applauds to supporters after winning the English Premier League match between Liverpool FC and Brighton & Hove Albion, in Liverpool, Britain, 25 October 2026. (EPA)
Liverpool manager Andoni Iraola applauds to supporters after winning the English Premier League match between Liverpool FC and Brighton & Hove Albion, in Liverpool, Britain, 25 October 2026. (EPA)

Liverpool coach Andoni Iraola refused to let a five-match winning run go to his team's head on Friday, saying it was too early to discuss a Premier League title challenge before champions Arsenal visit Anfield on Sunday.

After a humbling 3-0 defeat by Manchester City this month, Iraola's side have won five straight games across three competitions, including Wednesday's penalty shootout victory over Chelsea to reach the League ‌Cup quarter-finals.

Fourth-placed Liverpool ‌are six points behind Arsenal.

"It's still October, take ‌one ⁠game at a ⁠time and I always say the first reference is normally when we have played against each other once, halfway through the season, and then you can start looking at the standings," Iraola told reporters.

"Now we are in a position where we need to improve, keep getting better. Can fans dream? It's good if they have expectations and think we ⁠can win. But if you ask me, it is ‌still early."

GOOD RECORD AGAINST ARSENAL

Iraola has a ‌good record against Arsenal having won three of his last four meetings ‌with Mikel Arteta's side as Bournemouth head coach.

With Arsenal chasing a ‌first win at Anfield since 2012, the Spaniard said past records would count for little.

"It is true we had good results against them with Bournemouth but it does not mean a lot as it is a totally different team, ‌different group of players, different moments," he said.

"At the end of the day it is about winning ⁠the duels, running ⁠more than them, winning the aerial duels, set plays, mini games, these things that you have to control against Arsenal. They are the champions, they are top of the league right now, they have only lost one game this season."

Sunday's match offers Iraola the chance to meet up with his former teammate Arteta after they came through the youth ranks together in San Sebastian in Spain's Basque Country.

"Last week was (Chelsea boss) Xabi (Alonso), now Mikel, a lot of former friends on the opposition bench lately. I think it is a good thing in terms of spending 5-10 minutes after the game normally with them," Iraola said.

Dominik Szoboszlai (hamstring) and Victor Munoz (knee) could feature after recovering from injuries.


Arteta Tells Dowman Premier League Is ‘Not Disneyland’ After Ban Upheld

Arsenal's Spanish manager Mikel Arteta reacts ahead of the English League Cup fourth round football match between Fleetwood Town and Arsenal at Highbury Stadium in Fleetwood, northwest England, on October 27, 2026. (AFP)
Arsenal's Spanish manager Mikel Arteta reacts ahead of the English League Cup fourth round football match between Fleetwood Town and Arsenal at Highbury Stadium in Fleetwood, northwest England, on October 27, 2026. (AFP)
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Arteta Tells Dowman Premier League Is ‘Not Disneyland’ After Ban Upheld

Arsenal's Spanish manager Mikel Arteta reacts ahead of the English League Cup fourth round football match between Fleetwood Town and Arsenal at Highbury Stadium in Fleetwood, northwest England, on October 27, 2026. (AFP)
Arsenal's Spanish manager Mikel Arteta reacts ahead of the English League Cup fourth round football match between Fleetwood Town and Arsenal at Highbury Stadium in Fleetwood, northwest England, on October 27, 2026. (AFP)

Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta said teenager ‌Max Dowman must learn to cope with the demands of elite football after the winger's red card in the League Cup defeat at fourth-tier Fleetwood Town, with the 16-year-old having to serve a three-match suspension.

Dowman, who will miss Sunday's Premier League trip to Liverpool, was sent off in the 85th minute of Tuesday's fourth-round loss after an altercation with defender Harrison Neal as Arsenal lost 5-3 on penalties following a 1-1 draw.

"This is the environment, this is the reality. We are not in Disneyland, we are in the Premier League," Arteta told a press conference on Friday following criticism from football ‌fans over his ‌reaction to Dowman after the red card.

Arteta gave ‌the ⁠teenager a stern ⁠look as he left the pitch at Fleetwood's Highbury Stadium and exchanged words with Dowman on his way down the tunnel, later saying that the issue was something the pair had spoken about before kickoff.

"We look after him so much but at the same time we're going to demand from him like everybody else because he needs to earn the right to play. Because ⁠the other boys, what are they going to say ‌to me? You need to be fair," ‌Arteta said.

Arteta said his response was driven by frustration over the consequences for Dowman, ‌adding that the teenager's profile meant he was likely to attract ‌attention from opponents. He dismissed any suggestion of a rift with the winger.

"There are no issues. We had a talk yesterday. I have done it. That's why I am so protective of these things, especially with young players because we have made ‌these mistakes and you know how much you can get punished and how much it can change what ⁠happens next," ⁠Arteta said.

The Spaniard also voiced his disappointment after an independent regulatory commission upheld Dowman's ban, rejecting Arsenal's appeal against the dismissal and punishment.

"Very disappointed, to be fair, especially with the reckless tackle that he received. His reaction is minimal compared to the action," he said of Neal's challenge on Dowman.

On the injury front, Arteta said Declan Rice and Riccardo Calafiori had resumed training after missing the Fleetwood match with issues suffered in last weekend's home win over Everton in the Premier League.

Bukayo Saka, however, remains sidelined with the quadriceps problem he sustained in the Champions League draw at Bayern Munich on October 21.

"He needed another scan to see how much of the fluid has resolved. Afterwards we'll know more about it," Arteta added.


No Big Bayern Changes Ahead of Klassiker Despite Coach Kompany Absence, Danks Says

Football - DFB Cup - Second Round - Bayern Munich v FC Magdeburg - Allianz Arena, Munich, Germany - October 28, 2026 Bayern Munich assistant coach Aaron Danks reacts. (Reuters)
Football - DFB Cup - Second Round - Bayern Munich v FC Magdeburg - Allianz Arena, Munich, Germany - October 28, 2026 Bayern Munich assistant coach Aaron Danks reacts. (Reuters)
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No Big Bayern Changes Ahead of Klassiker Despite Coach Kompany Absence, Danks Says

Football - DFB Cup - Second Round - Bayern Munich v FC Magdeburg - Allianz Arena, Munich, Germany - October 28, 2026 Bayern Munich assistant coach Aaron Danks reacts. (Reuters)
Football - DFB Cup - Second Round - Bayern Munich v FC Magdeburg - Allianz Arena, Munich, Germany - October 28, 2026 Bayern Munich assistant coach Aaron Danks reacts. (Reuters)

Bayern Munich will ‌not be making changes or preparing any differently for Saturday's Bundesliga Klassiker against Dortmund despite the absence of coach Vincent Kompany, assistant coach Aaron Danks said on Friday.

Kompany was discharged from hospital on Wednesday following his collapse in training last week due to a meningeal irritation but he is expected to be out for some time to recover. Danks is in charge for the second game after ‌their German Cup ‌win over Magdeburg this week.

The ‌Belgian ⁠coach had been rushed ⁠to hospital last week after collapsing during a second-team training session. He had been nursing a virus in the days before.

"We want the players to go out and show who they are," Danks told a press conference in Munich. "No big changes, ⁠no big differences for us. We will ‌be ready and super ‌competitive."

"There is a difference (in coaching). Vinnie did not want ‌his assistant coaches to be mini-Vinnies. We are ‌all different, but we complement each other," Danks said.

Bayern are top in the Bundesliga, ahead of Dortmund only on goal difference. They travel to Madrid to face Atletico ‌in the Champions League on Tuesday, with Danks, who has been in his ⁠position ⁠since 2024, expected to be in charge for at least the coming few games.

"What happened with Vinnie is difficult to prepare for," said Max Eberl, Bayern board member for sport. "What we said at the start of his illness is that we have a coaching staff. Vinnie is up front with a big personality but there is a whole team."

"It is nothing new for the lads. It is not a situation we could have planned for, but we have seamlessly made the transition."