Hamdok to Asharq Al-Awsat: Our Relations With US Are Advancing, No Fear with Ethiopia

Hamdok to Asharq Al-Awsat: Our Relations With US Are Advancing, No Fear with Ethiopia
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Hamdok to Asharq Al-Awsat: Our Relations With US Are Advancing, No Fear with Ethiopia

Hamdok to Asharq Al-Awsat: Our Relations With US Are Advancing, No Fear with Ethiopia

Sudanese Prime Minister Abdalla Hamdok said his country’s removal from the US terrorism list was very imminent, noting a “significant progress” in the relations with the United States.

He pointed to some pending points pertaining to compensation for the bombings of the American embassies in Nairobi and Dar es-Salam.

“Even in this case, we have made great strides, and we expect to reach an end soon,” he stressed. “Since we came to power, we have been working to address the issue of terrorism, and we have made great progress, and we expect this file to be resolved soon.”

In an exclusive interview with Asharq Al-Awsat, Hamdok said the two countries had agreed to exchange ambassadors, but noted that the issue was delayed due to the coronavirus outbreak.

“We agreed on my visit to Washington last December to exchange ambassadors. America had not had an ambassador to Sudan for 23 years; so they decided to appoint an ambassador, and this is considered as major progress in relations between the two countries. I believe that the conditions related to the coronavirus pandemic led to delaying the appointment,” he remarked.

The Sudanese prime minister said he was seeking to establish “strong relations with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates that go beyond aid to unlimited integration.”

He emphasized that the relations with Riyadh and Abu Dhabi were “very good.”

“We commend the support that we receive from them, but we aspire for relations that rise higher than donations,” he underlined, calling on the two Gulf capitals to boost their investments in the African country.

“We seek to bring the Saudi and Emirati capitals to invest in our country with billions of dollars, because we have the capabilities and benefits that enable this integration to happen. We want this relationship to surpass the limits of aid, but rather go to broader horizons,” Hamdok told Asharq Al-Awsat.

On a different note, the Sudanese premier said he was not worried about an escalation with Ethiopia after the recent border tensions, stressing that the two countries had some mechanisms “that can help in dealing with the crisis.”

He stressed that his country was engaged in the Renaissance Dam and expected “very great benefits”.

“What we have done is to help the three parties stop the escalation and return to the negotiating table, to reach an agreement that would enable Ethiopia to fill the reservoir of the dam before beginning to fill the lake,” he explained.

On the internal level, Hamdok highlighted his ability to solve Sudan’s economic crises, saying: “If I were not convinced about my ability to tackle the economic crisis, I would not stay in my position for a day.”

“We are completely convinced that we are a country rich in many resources, and we inherited a completely collapsed economy; but with our unity and ability to address the local components and the outside world around us, we can create a climate in the short term that helps us overcome our problems,” he said.

Commenting on recent Security Council resolutions in response to the government’s request to establish a political mission for Sudan and extend the term of the UNAMID mission, Hamdok said: “We asked to send a political mission to Sudan… and the decision was met with approval from the international community and the Security Council. It is a mission to help us in the challenges of transition, especially the peace process.”

“This process is carried out based on the vision of the Sudanese government, and this is what the UN Security Council mentioned: that the process be carried out according to the preservation of national sovereignty,” he emphasized.

Asked about the peace process with armed groups, the prime minister noted that he was in direct and permanent contact with the leaders of the Revolutionary Front and other armed movements that were not involved in the negotiations.

“The Sovereign Council is part of the transitional authority. We are an integrated transitional government, and there is no competition between us,” he stated.

He continued: “We did not expect that peace would take so long; this is because of the increasing optimism over stopping the war and building peace, as a prerequisite to sustainable democracy.”

Asked about the government’s opinion on the recent tensions in Darfur between the army and the Sudan Liberation Movement, Hamdok said that since the beginning of the transitional period, clashes and problems of an ethnic and tribal nature in the states of Darfur, Port Sudan, Kassala, and Kadugli have not ceased.

He explained that these conflicts and clashes were due to the mass destruction that the ousted regime had created.

“These are challenges facing the transitional government, and they need a special solution… To stop this, we have developed a method based on law enforcement to impose state prestige,” he underlined.

Asked about his achievements nine months after the formation of the transitional government, the prime minister said: “We have set a program for the transitional period based on 10 priorities, the most important of which is the file of peace and the economy.”

He added that despite the slow pace of the peace process, “we believe it is moving in the right direction, especially the documents that we reached during the negotiations.”

Hamdok pointed to the country’s progress in agricultural production, saying: “The biggest government success was that of the winter agricultural season and the high productivity of the wheat crop. The government participated in it, but the credit goes to the farmers. What happened bodes well that we can achieve wheat sufficiency and even export it.”

He also pointed to the amendment of salaries, which has been neglected for a long time, in addition to tackling the liquidity scarcity, and other issues.



Lebanon’s President to Asharq Al-Awsat: Decision of War and Peace Lies Solely with the State

Lebanese President Joseph Aoun in the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat's editor-in-chief Ghassan Charbel. Photo: Asharq Al-Awsat
Lebanese President Joseph Aoun in the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat's editor-in-chief Ghassan Charbel. Photo: Asharq Al-Awsat
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Lebanon’s President to Asharq Al-Awsat: Decision of War and Peace Lies Solely with the State

Lebanese President Joseph Aoun in the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat's editor-in-chief Ghassan Charbel. Photo: Asharq Al-Awsat
Lebanese President Joseph Aoun in the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat's editor-in-chief Ghassan Charbel. Photo: Asharq Al-Awsat

Lebanese President Joseph Aoun says he wants to build a state that has the decision of war and peace and stressed he is committed to implementing Security Council Resolution 1701.

In an interview with Asharq Al-Awsat, his first since his election in January, Aoun said: “Our objective is to build the state, so nothing is difficult. And if we want to talk about the concept of sovereignty, its concept is to place the decisions of war and peace in the hands of the state, and to monopolize or restrict weapons to the state.”

“When will it be achieved? Surely, the circumstances will allow it,” he told the newspaper.

Asked whether the state will be able to impose control over all Lebanese territories with its own forces and without any military or security partnership, he said: "It is no longer allowed for anyone other than the state to fulfill its national duty in protecting the land and the people ... When there is an aggression against the Lebanese state, the state makes the decision, and it determines how to mobilize forces to defend the country."

He also stressed his full commitment to implement UN Security Council Resolution 1701. “The state and all its institutions are committed to implementing the Resolution” on the “entire Lebanese territories,” Aoun said.

On the possible adoption of a defense strategy, Aoun insisted that even if a state does not have enemies on its borders, it should agree on a national security strategy that not only deals with military goals but also economic and fiscal objectives.

“We are tired of war,” he said in response to a question. “We hope to end military conflicts and resolve our problems through diplomatic efforts,” he said.

Asked whether he was surprised that the Israeli army has stayed at five points in south Lebanon, Aoun said that Israel should have committed to the ceasefire agreement that was sponsored by the US and France and should have withdrawn from all areas it had entered during the war with Hezbollah.

“We are in contact with France and the US to pressure Israel to withdraw from the five points because they don’t have any military value,” he said.

“With the emergence of technologies, drones and satellites,” an army does not need a hill for surveillance, Aoun added.

"Saudi Arabia has become a gateway for the region and for the whole world. It has become a platform for global peace,” he said when asked why he has chosen to visit the Kingdom on his first official trip abroad.

“I hope and expect from Saudi Arabia, especially Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, that we correct the relationship for the benefit of both countries and remove all the obstacles ... so that we can build economic and natural relations between us.”

He said that during his visit he plans to ask Saudi Arabia to revive a grant of military aid to Lebanon.

On relations with the Syrian authorities, Aoun said he intends to have friendly ties the new Syrian administration and that one of the pressing issues is to resolve the problem of the porous border between the two countries.

“There are problems on the border (with Syria) with smugglers. Most importantly, the land and sea border with Syria should be demarcated,” he said.

Aoun also called for resolving the problem of Syrian refugees in Lebanon. “The Syrian state cannot give up on 2 million citizens who have been displaced to Lebanon.”

The refugees should return because “the Syrian war ended and the regime that was persecuting them collapsed,” he said.