Mariam al-Mahdi to Asharq Al-Awsat: Sudan, Egypt Have Other Options if Ethiopia Insists on Filling GERD

Sudanese Foreign Minister Mariam al-Mahdi. (AFP)
Sudanese Foreign Minister Mariam al-Mahdi. (AFP)
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Mariam al-Mahdi to Asharq Al-Awsat: Sudan, Egypt Have Other Options if Ethiopia Insists on Filling GERD

Sudanese Foreign Minister Mariam al-Mahdi. (AFP)
Sudanese Foreign Minister Mariam al-Mahdi. (AFP)

Sudanese Foreign Minister Mariam al-Mahdi described Egyptian President Abdul Fattah al-Sisi’s visit to Sudan on Saturday as “different” than its predecessors, explaining that it took place at a time Khartoum and Cairo needed to build a strategic relationship that prioritizes development and stability.

In an interview to Asharq Al-Awsat on the occasion of International Women’s Day, Mahdi acknowledged that Sudan and Egypt had attempted to abandon their ties and even tried to interfere in each other’s affairs, “but to no avail.”

The situation is now different, she went on to say, citing joint challenges, which demand rapprochement on all economic, social and security levels.

She said Sudan and Egypt have agreed to activate a number of agreements that remained unimplemented over the years, which would help achieve the desired rapprochement and benefit the region at large, as well as the world.

“This is a joint relationship that can act as a factor for stability for our countries, region and the world,” added the minister

On Sisi’s meetings in Khartoum, Mahdi stressed that they represented a “meeting of higher political wills.”

The president had held talks with Prime Minister Abdallah Hamdok, head of the Sovereign Council General Abdel Fattah al-Burhan and first deputy Hemedti. Mahdi revealed that no issue was off limits and that Hamdok would soon visit Egypt.

Moreover, she stated that Egypt believes that ties with Sudan have a major strategic importance and they may even be its top priority.

Such strategic ties demand that discussions on pending files be held with complete transparency to remove any obstacles, she remarked.

On the Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam dispute with Ethiopia, she urged the need “to reach a joint cooperation framework” so that the Nile river could be “a source of prosperity and development for Sudan, Egypt and Ethiopia, instead of a cause for disputes or conflicts.”

“We have the right to benefit from the river, but Sudan and Egypt oppose any unilateral moves by Ethiopia,” she stressed, saying that Addis Ababa needed to return to the negotiations table so that a legal binding agreement can be reached.

She dismissed Ethiopia’s proposal that the agreement be a declaration of intent, saying a binding agreement with international references was a more viable option.

In addition, she warned against Ethiopia’s move to begin the second phase of the filling of the dam in July. “This will expose us to imminent danger,” Mahdi said. “Egypt does have its own water challenges, but Sudan will immediately feel the impact of the filling, which will put the lives of 20 million Sudanese people at risk.”

Khartoum and Cairo have agreed to coordinate their positions and act on the diplomatic level with Africa to explain the danger of Ethiopia’s actions, she continued. The international community, especially the European Union, United Nations and United States, will also be approached.

Addressing the tensions on the Sudanese-Ethiopian border, Mahdi said that Sudan’s sovereignty over its territories is backed up by maps and documents. Addis Ababa itself recognizes these documents.

Relations with Ethiopia are “strategic” and Sudan is “very keen on them,” she went on to say, urging the need to resolve the border dispute, which would pave the way for any significant cooperation between the neighbors.

On women’s issues in Sudan, Mahdi said the December revolution “liberated women” and unleashed their potential, allowing them to play a major role in the victory that saw the ouster of the regime.

She did, however, criticize the poor representation of women in power, compared to their effective role in the revolt, urging feminist groups to unify their efforts to introduce change.

Mahdi is the second women to ever be appointed foreign minister in Sudan and the only one in the Arab world.

She said that the foreign affairs portfolio is among the most important in government. Moreover, women throughout the world are assuming diplomatic positions, except in the Arab world.

Women can occupy such position because of their high social intelligence, she stated.

She denied that she has encountered any challenges during her time in office so far, attributing it to her “military” background when she fought alongside opposition forces during the 1990s.

“The military is among the most difficult experiences women can endure. Everything else is very easy,” Mahdi told Asharq Al-Awsat.

The minister added: “The Mahdi armies were joined by women. Whole families came out to fight. I come from a very revolutionary background.” She revealed that the first feminist organization in Sudan was established by her grandmother and her mother was the first Sudanese woman to pursue an education in the West.

On the revolution, she said women took part in it in droves because of their strong nature. “Sudanese women have taken part in all revolts,” she stressed, while criticizing the ousted regime for issuing laws that infringed on women’s rights, which only strengthened and made them more committed to the revolt and change.



Al-Sharaa to Asharq Al-Awsat: Revolution Ended with Regime’s Fall, Will Not Be Exported

Ahmed Al-Sharaa in the interview with Bissane El-Cheikh in Damascus on Thursday
Ahmed Al-Sharaa in the interview with Bissane El-Cheikh in Damascus on Thursday
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Al-Sharaa to Asharq Al-Awsat: Revolution Ended with Regime’s Fall, Will Not Be Exported

Ahmed Al-Sharaa in the interview with Bissane El-Cheikh in Damascus on Thursday
Ahmed Al-Sharaa in the interview with Bissane El-Cheikh in Damascus on Thursday

Ahmed Al-Sharaa, the head of the new Syrian administration, told Asharq Al-Awsat that “the Syrian revolution ended with the regime's fall, and we will not allow it to spread elsewhere.”

He stressed that Syria “will not be used to attack or destabilize any Arab or Gulf country.”

Speaking from the Presidential Palace in Damascus on Thursday, Al-Sharaa said the Syrian opposition’s actions had “set the Iranian project in the region back by 40 years.”

Asked why Syria has yet to send a direct message to the Gulf and major Arab nations, Al-Sharaa responded by saying that his country has much to say to its Arab neighbors.

“Syria had become a platform for Iran to control key Arab capitals, spread wars, and destabilize the Gulf with drugs like Captagon,” he said.

He added: “By removing Iranian militias and closing Syria to Iranian influence, we’ve served the region’s interests—achieving what diplomacy and external pressure could not, with minimal losses.”

Al-Sharaa also criticized efforts to restore ties with the former Syrian regime, including its return to the Arab League in exchange for concessions.

“We were confident this would fail because we knew the regime would not make any genuine concessions or approach these overtures in good faith,” he said.

He claimed that during a meeting with Jordanian officials, the former regime was asked why it insisted on exporting Captagon to Jordan.

“The response was that it would not stop unless sanctions were lifted," Al-Sharaa said, adding “this is not how the regime operates.”

He emphasized that Gulf strategic security has since improved. “Today, the Iranian project in the region has been pushed back 40 years, making the Gulf more secure and stable.”

When asked if he would give reassurances on Syria not becoming a refuge for certain figures, Al-Sharaa dismissed concerns about hosting figures who cause concern for some Arab nations, saying Syria will not become a haven for controversial individuals.

“We are now focused on state-building. The revolution ended with the regime's fall, and we will not allow it to spread elsewhere. Syria will not be a platform to threaten or unsettle any Arab or Gulf country,” he said.

Al-Sharaa stressed that Syria seeks to rebuild and strengthen ties with Arab nations. “Syria is tired of wars and being used for others’ agendas. We want to restore trust and rebuild our country as part of the Arab world.”

He praised the Gulf’s progress, saying: “We admire the development in Gulf countries, particularly Saudi Arabia’s bold plans and vision, and we aspire to achieve similar progress for Syria.”

He added: “There are many opportunities for cooperation, especially in economic and developmental areas, where we can align our goals.”

On Syria’s relationship with its neighbor Lebanon, Al-Sharaa acknowledged concerns raised by Lebanese counterparts about him reaching Damascus, fearing it could strengthen one faction over another in Lebanon.

“We are not seeking any form of dominance over Lebanon,” he said. “We want a relationship based on mutual respect and exchange, without interfering in Lebanon’s internal affairs. We have enough work to do in our own country.”

Al-Sharaa emphasized Syria’s intention to maintain balanced relations, saying he aims “to stand equally with all Lebanese groups, and what pleases them, pleases us.”

Al-Sharaa was asked about a national dialogue conference and a new constitution to guide Syria’s future, and the mechanism that he plans to ensure inclusivity for all Syrians in the process, especially among the base of supporters and fighters who do not necessarily agree with his current moderate speech.

Al-Sharaa acknowledged differing opinions but emphasized he does not want to impose his personal views on Syrians.

“I believe in letting legal experts shape the relationship between citizens, with the law as the guide,” he said.

“Syria is diverse, and it's natural for there to be different opinions. This difference is healthy.”

Al-Sharaa stressed that the recent victory is for all Syrians, not one group over another.

“Even those we thought were loyal to the old regime expressed joy, as they had not been able to openly express their feelings before,” he noted.

He expressed confidence that Syrians, regardless of their background, are aware enough to protect their country.

“My aim is to reach a broad agreement and build a country where the rule of law helps resolve our differences,” Al-Sharaa concluded.

On the complex issue of forced disappearances and individuals missing in prisons and mass graves, Al-Sharaa said the previous regime was a criminal gang, not a political system.

“We fought a brutal group that committed crimes like arrests, forced disappearances, killings, displacement, starvation, chemical attacks, and torture,” he said.

He stressed that while the regime is gone, the focus should be on justice, not revenge.

“We must not approach this with a desire for vengeance,” he said.

Al-Sharaa stated that those responsible for crimes like the Saydnaya prison and chemical attacks must be held accountable.

“Their names are known and they must be pursued,” he said. He also affirmed that families have the right to file complaints against unknown perpetrators.

Al-Sharaa outlined efforts to address the issue of missing persons. “We’ve broken the barriers, and specialized organizations are now helping with this task,” he said.

A new ministry will be set up to track the fate of the missing, both the deceased and the living.

“This will also assist families with documents like death certificates and inheritance,” he added.

He acknowledged the challenge ahead but emphasized the need to uncover the truth. “This is a big task, but we must find the truth,” Al-Sharaa said.

When asked about hosting the interview at the People’s Palace, the same location where Bashar al-Assad once sat, Al-Sharaa responded with a light-hearted laugh.

“To be honest, I don’t feel comfortable at all,” he said. “But this is a place that should be open to the people, a site where they can visit and where children can play in these courtyards.”