Taliban Spokesman to Asharq Al-Awsat: Our Rule Will be Islamic, We Have Learned from the Past

Dr. Mohammad Naim, a spokesperson for the Taliban’s political office. (Getty Images)
Dr. Mohammad Naim, a spokesperson for the Taliban’s political office. (Getty Images)
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Taliban Spokesman to Asharq Al-Awsat: Our Rule Will be Islamic, We Have Learned from the Past

Dr. Mohammad Naim, a spokesperson for the Taliban’s political office. (Getty Images)
Dr. Mohammad Naim, a spokesperson for the Taliban’s political office. (Getty Images)

Dr. Mohammad Naim, a spokesperson for the Taliban’s political office, stressed that his movement has sent out assurances within Afghanistan, the neighboring region and international community that the country will not be a platform to threaten the security of other nations.

The movement also issued general amnesty inside Afghanistan to people who had fought it for decades and who had allied themselves with its enemies, he added, saying it was doing so from a position of strength.

In an interview by email to Asharq Al-Awsat, Naim explained that his movement could have arrested its rivals and put them on trial. That would have been justice, but it opted instead for amnesty. Amnesty is an act of goodness, which is above justice, he said.

Through this gesture, the “Islamic Emirate” of Afghanistan wanted to open a new chapter and put an end to the bitterness and grudges of the past. This new chapter paves the way for new relations where all Afghans can come together to build an Islamic system, he explained.

On the regional level, the Taliban has expressed its readiness to let go of the past and forge new ties based on good neighborliness and refraining from meddling in the affairs of others, he went on to say.

On the international level, Naim said the “Emirate” wanted to establish normal diplomatic relations with countries, even those that had fought it for 20 years.

Asked if the Taliban has changed its strategy after two decades, he said that the reassuring messages the “Emirate” is sending to the Afghan people, its neighbors and the world are nothing new to the movement. The movement has long expressed its readiness for such relations, but the others always rejected its advances. They wanted the movement to abandon its values and approach and surrender to the occupation, he went on to say.

The amnesty and refusal to resort to violence are all part of the “Emirate”, he explained, but hostile media has always refused to show this image. The Taliban will fulfill its pledges to its people, neighbors and the entire world.

Asked how much the movement has changed since it ruled Afghanistan the first time back in 1996 and imposed harsh daily restrictions on the people, Naim replied that the foundations of the movement’s ideology are based on religion.

The movement wants an independent Islamic system based on Sharia law, he explained. This system will achieve justice, end oppression, provide security, unite the country, foster fraternity between the Muslim Afghan people, preserve everyone’s rights, achieve economic and social prosperity and establish positive relations with all countries.

These goals have never changed, he stressed.

The “Emirate” has learned a lot in the past 20 years. It has bolstered its experience in politics and the military, cultural, education and social fields, he went to say, remarking that the world has also largely changed as well throughout that time.

Asked when the Taliban will impose Sharia law in Afghanistan, Naim replied that the implementation of Sharia is not limited to penalties against crimes, theft and drinking alcohol.

Sharia means religion becomes a way of life in terms of creed, worship, behavior and morals. It becomes part of the people’s individual, social, political, economic and cultural lives, he stated. The system is responsible for providing the people with security and opportunities in all fields.

The first thing the future system will implement is fulfill the goal the Afghan people have strived for for over 40 years and that is the establishment of an Islamic system under which they can live in security, safety and dignity, he said.

Commenting on the rapid collapse of the former Afghan government headed by President Ashraf Ghani, he stated that the administration in Kabul was introduced by the occupation. The Afghan people refuse to be ruled by foreigners and have, throughout history, opposed any occupation.

Moreover, he remarked that the guards who were protecting the administration were of the people. Circumstances had prevented them from joining the mujahedeen, but when the foreign forces pulled out, they naturally returned to the people.

Furthermore, the strength, faith and courage of the “Emirate” and people’s acceptance of it led to the collapse of the Kabul administration, he stressed.

Asked if the Taliban was prepared to form an expanded government with other segments of Afghan society, Naim replied that the movement was working on forming a government that represents the Muslim Afghan people and all of their components.

The new government will meet its expectations and will be the real product of their jihad and sacrifices, he stated.

Looking beyond the Afghan borders, Naim said the Taliban was hoping to establish strong relations with all Islamic and Arab countries and ties of friendship with all world countries. The Taliban and Arab-Islamic countries enjoy bonds of creed, religion, history and geography, as well as joint interests, he noted.

Moreover, he stressed that Saudi Arabia is the birthplace of Islam and the qibla of Muslims, and so it holds a major position in the Muslim nation.

Meanwhile, other countries, such as China, Russia and Germany and some members of the European Union, have started to send “positive” messages towards the “Emirate”, which it appreciates, revealed Naim.

The Taliban also boasts good relations with all of its neighbors and it wants to expand them further. The movement had previously expressed its keenness on establishing normal relations with all countries, especially neighboring ones. The “Emirate” has received positive messages from neighbors, including China, Pakistan and Iran.

Commenting on the US pullout from Afghanistan, he said foreigners cannot remain in a country that is not their own. The Taliban was confident that the foreign forces would withdraw from the country.

Turning to the Taliban’s approach towards extremist groups, such as al-Qaeda, he stressed that the “Emirate” had pledged to all countries that Afghanistan will not serve as a platform for operations that threaten the security of any country. “We are committed to this. We do not meddle in the affairs of others and will not allow others to meddle in ours.”

On the role of women in Afghanistan, Naim said the “Emirate” had underscored its keenness on educating women and their right to hold jobs. This should all, however, take place according to Sharia law and the values of the Afghan people.

Asked if the people will grow accustomed to the Taliban, he stated that the people are Muslim and they know the rules of Islam. The people are proud of their religion, values, morals and nation. Islam is no stranger to the people, who have throughout history made sacrifices for the religion. This is secret to no one.

The “Emirate” is widely accepted by the majority of the people and the popular celebrations that welcomed the mujahedeen when they swept through Afghan cities is evidence of that, he noted.

The enemies are those who vilify the “Islamic Emirate” and who work on tarnishing its image, he stressed. Those who have been deceived by these claims have since opened their eyes to the truth.

The war is over, declared Naim. Now is the time for peace, in spite of some lingering problems. Kabul will be ruled by a just and fair Islamic system that meets the demands of the Muslim Afghan people.

Asked if the Taliban will return to the harsh punishments, such as public executions, amputations and stoning, it had adopted when it ruled between 1996 and 2001, he said that punishments outlined in the Quran and Sunnah and agreed to by scholars of the nation are not described as harsh or inhumane.

The “Emirate” does not impose such punishments, but God does, he clarified, citing evidence in the Quran, Sunnah teachings and by scholars.

Delivering a message to Arab and Muslim readers around the world, Naim said he expects all sides to stand by the wronged Afghan people now that they are living in peace. The Taliban will rebuild a country that has been destroyed by over 20 years of war, he vowed.



Al-Sharaa to Asharq Al-Awsat: Revolution Ended with Regime’s Fall, Will Not Be Exported

Ahmed Al-Sharaa in the interview with Bissane El-Cheikh in Damascus on Thursday
Ahmed Al-Sharaa in the interview with Bissane El-Cheikh in Damascus on Thursday
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Al-Sharaa to Asharq Al-Awsat: Revolution Ended with Regime’s Fall, Will Not Be Exported

Ahmed Al-Sharaa in the interview with Bissane El-Cheikh in Damascus on Thursday
Ahmed Al-Sharaa in the interview with Bissane El-Cheikh in Damascus on Thursday

Ahmed Al-Sharaa, the head of the new Syrian administration, told Asharq Al-Awsat that “the Syrian revolution ended with the regime's fall, and we will not allow it to spread elsewhere.”

He stressed that Syria “will not be used to attack or destabilize any Arab or Gulf country.”

Speaking from the Presidential Palace in Damascus on Thursday, Al-Sharaa said the Syrian opposition’s actions had “set the Iranian project in the region back by 40 years.”

Asked why Syria has yet to send a direct message to the Gulf and major Arab nations, Al-Sharaa responded by saying that his country has much to say to its Arab neighbors.

“Syria had become a platform for Iran to control key Arab capitals, spread wars, and destabilize the Gulf with drugs like Captagon,” he said.

He added: “By removing Iranian militias and closing Syria to Iranian influence, we’ve served the region’s interests—achieving what diplomacy and external pressure could not, with minimal losses.”

Al-Sharaa also criticized efforts to restore ties with the former Syrian regime, including its return to the Arab League in exchange for concessions.

“We were confident this would fail because we knew the regime would not make any genuine concessions or approach these overtures in good faith,” he said.

He claimed that during a meeting with Jordanian officials, the former regime was asked why it insisted on exporting Captagon to Jordan.

“The response was that it would not stop unless sanctions were lifted," Al-Sharaa said, adding “this is not how the regime operates.”

He emphasized that Gulf strategic security has since improved. “Today, the Iranian project in the region has been pushed back 40 years, making the Gulf more secure and stable.”

When asked if he would give reassurances on Syria not becoming a refuge for certain figures, Al-Sharaa dismissed concerns about hosting figures who cause concern for some Arab nations, saying Syria will not become a haven for controversial individuals.

“We are now focused on state-building. The revolution ended with the regime's fall, and we will not allow it to spread elsewhere. Syria will not be a platform to threaten or unsettle any Arab or Gulf country,” he said.

Al-Sharaa stressed that Syria seeks to rebuild and strengthen ties with Arab nations. “Syria is tired of wars and being used for others’ agendas. We want to restore trust and rebuild our country as part of the Arab world.”

He praised the Gulf’s progress, saying: “We admire the development in Gulf countries, particularly Saudi Arabia’s bold plans and vision, and we aspire to achieve similar progress for Syria.”

He added: “There are many opportunities for cooperation, especially in economic and developmental areas, where we can align our goals.”

On Syria’s relationship with its neighbor Lebanon, Al-Sharaa acknowledged concerns raised by Lebanese counterparts about him reaching Damascus, fearing it could strengthen one faction over another in Lebanon.

“We are not seeking any form of dominance over Lebanon,” he said. “We want a relationship based on mutual respect and exchange, without interfering in Lebanon’s internal affairs. We have enough work to do in our own country.”

Al-Sharaa emphasized Syria’s intention to maintain balanced relations, saying he aims “to stand equally with all Lebanese groups, and what pleases them, pleases us.”

Al-Sharaa was asked about a national dialogue conference and a new constitution to guide Syria’s future, and the mechanism that he plans to ensure inclusivity for all Syrians in the process, especially among the base of supporters and fighters who do not necessarily agree with his current moderate speech.

Al-Sharaa acknowledged differing opinions but emphasized he does not want to impose his personal views on Syrians.

“I believe in letting legal experts shape the relationship between citizens, with the law as the guide,” he said.

“Syria is diverse, and it's natural for there to be different opinions. This difference is healthy.”

Al-Sharaa stressed that the recent victory is for all Syrians, not one group over another.

“Even those we thought were loyal to the old regime expressed joy, as they had not been able to openly express their feelings before,” he noted.

He expressed confidence that Syrians, regardless of their background, are aware enough to protect their country.

“My aim is to reach a broad agreement and build a country where the rule of law helps resolve our differences,” Al-Sharaa concluded.

On the complex issue of forced disappearances and individuals missing in prisons and mass graves, Al-Sharaa said the previous regime was a criminal gang, not a political system.

“We fought a brutal group that committed crimes like arrests, forced disappearances, killings, displacement, starvation, chemical attacks, and torture,” he said.

He stressed that while the regime is gone, the focus should be on justice, not revenge.

“We must not approach this with a desire for vengeance,” he said.

Al-Sharaa stated that those responsible for crimes like the Saydnaya prison and chemical attacks must be held accountable.

“Their names are known and they must be pursued,” he said. He also affirmed that families have the right to file complaints against unknown perpetrators.

Al-Sharaa outlined efforts to address the issue of missing persons. “We’ve broken the barriers, and specialized organizations are now helping with this task,” he said.

A new ministry will be set up to track the fate of the missing, both the deceased and the living.

“This will also assist families with documents like death certificates and inheritance,” he added.

He acknowledged the challenge ahead but emphasized the need to uncover the truth. “This is a big task, but we must find the truth,” Al-Sharaa said.

When asked about hosting the interview at the People’s Palace, the same location where Bashar al-Assad once sat, Al-Sharaa responded with a light-hearted laugh.

“To be honest, I don’t feel comfortable at all,” he said. “But this is a place that should be open to the people, a site where they can visit and where children can play in these courtyards.”