UfM Secretary-General to Asharq Al-Awsat: Regional Cooperation Is Now Inevitable

 Union for the Mediterranean (UfM) Secretary-General Nasser Kamel. (Asharq Al-Awsat)
Union for the Mediterranean (UfM) Secretary-General Nasser Kamel. (Asharq Al-Awsat)
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UfM Secretary-General to Asharq Al-Awsat: Regional Cooperation Is Now Inevitable

 Union for the Mediterranean (UfM) Secretary-General Nasser Kamel. (Asharq Al-Awsat)
Union for the Mediterranean (UfM) Secretary-General Nasser Kamel. (Asharq Al-Awsat)

Foreign ministers of the Union for the Mediterranean (UfM) countries are meeting in Barcelona this Thursday to discuss ways of strengthening Euro-Mediterranean cooperation and facing the climate challenges that threaten economic development in the region.

In an interview with Asharq Al-Awsat on the eve of the conference, UfM Secretary-General Ambassador Nasser Kamel said the Euro-Mediterranean region, with its 43 states did not have an option but to become a cooperative and integrated bloc if it wanted to have its voice heard in tomorrow’s world.

“The geostrategic situation and the relative stability of the region had given way to further strengthening regional cooperation in all matters relating to sustainable development in the Mediterranean basin,” he noted.

“Tomorrow (Thursday), we need to review the Union’s activities in our six areas of interest, including climate change, new and renewable energy, business and trade, scientific research and education, social affairs, specifically women’s and youth empowerment, infrastructure and urban development, and environment and water,” Kamel underlined.

He explained that the evaluation of the Union’s activities would be based on the road map adopted by the UfM foreign ministers in 2017, noting that the participants would also set the necessary directives to give a new impetus to the Euro-Mediterranean cooperation 25 years after the announcement of the Barcelona Declaration.

Asked about cooperation between North and South Mediterranean countries, given the economic disparities and various political challenges, Kamel said: “This cooperation is not only a political will, I think it is an urgent necessity. The past ten years have unquestionably confirmed that what happens in one of the two shores of the Mediterranean adversely or negatively affects the opposite bank.”

He went on to say that the effects of the so-called “Arab Spring” had real repercussions on EU countries, mainly the emigration crisis and its resulting tension.

“The Euro-Mediterranean region, with its 43 countries… can only become a cooperative and integrated bloc if it is to have a voice in tomorrow’s world, where economic powers such as China and India are rising alongside the American economic giant. Thus, regional integration is not an option; it is now inevitable, so our voice can be heard in the international economic scene,” Kamel emphasized.

On whether the UfM foreign ministers meeting would adopt a plan of action to reverse the effects of climate change, in light with the recent report on climate change in the region, he said: “The Union for the Mediterranean is a regional window for the implementation of the sustainable development goals set by the international community through the United Nations. One of the priorities of these goals is to deal with climate change.”

He noted that a network of more than 80 scientists from across the Euro-Mediterranean region (Medecc) undertook a major and unprecedented report to serve as the largest scientific assessment of regional climate and environmental change in the Mediterranean region.

The study concluded that the Mediterranean region was the second most affected by climate change, after Antarctica, he warned.

He stressed that the potential repercussions of climate change led the UfM to address the issue from a holistic perspective and saw it as an opportunity to promote economic and commercial cooperation and integration “based on a blue economy that is capable of dealing with the inevitable negative impacts of climate change on one hand, and creating jobs and economic growth associated with sustainable and environmentally-friendly development on the other.”

Kamel underlined several initiatives launched by Mediterranean countries to protect the environment, including the experiences of Egypt and Morocco in the field of new and renewable energy.

“The two countries have decided to invest for years in solar energy, where they have developed one of the largest solar power plants in the world. The same applies to wind power in a number of countries, such as Jordan and Tunisia,” he remarked.

The UfM secretary-general also touched on economic cooperation between Mediterranean countries, saying that it had improved relatively over the past three years.

“Although there are some hotbeds of tension in the Mediterranean basin, the degree of political stability has increased, along with the economic growth rates in the southern Mediterranean countries, which reached about 3 percent in some countries and exceeded 5 and 6 percent in both Egypt and Morocco,” he stated, adding: “But the challenge we have not yet achieved is to create a comprehensive Euro-Mediterranean free trade area. The reasons, of course, are known: the absence of a just settlement of the Palestinian issue.”

On the emigration file, Kamel emphasized that the crisis reached its climax in 2013, 2014 and 2015.

“What we are witnessing today is by no means comparable to previous flows. This is due to the relative improvement in the political and economic conditions of the countries of the region and the more effective policies of controlling illegal immigration in the countries of the North and South,” he affirmed.



Al-Sharaa to Asharq Al-Awsat: Revolution Ended with Regime’s Fall, Will Not Be Exported

Ahmed Al-Sharaa in the interview with Bissane El-Cheikh in Damascus on Thursday
Ahmed Al-Sharaa in the interview with Bissane El-Cheikh in Damascus on Thursday
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Al-Sharaa to Asharq Al-Awsat: Revolution Ended with Regime’s Fall, Will Not Be Exported

Ahmed Al-Sharaa in the interview with Bissane El-Cheikh in Damascus on Thursday
Ahmed Al-Sharaa in the interview with Bissane El-Cheikh in Damascus on Thursday

Ahmed Al-Sharaa, the head of the new Syrian administration, told Asharq Al-Awsat that “the Syrian revolution ended with the regime's fall, and we will not allow it to spread elsewhere.”

He stressed that Syria “will not be used to attack or destabilize any Arab or Gulf country.”

Speaking from the Presidential Palace in Damascus on Thursday, Al-Sharaa said the Syrian opposition’s actions had “set the Iranian project in the region back by 40 years.”

Asked why Syria has yet to send a direct message to the Gulf and major Arab nations, Al-Sharaa responded by saying that his country has much to say to its Arab neighbors.

“Syria had become a platform for Iran to control key Arab capitals, spread wars, and destabilize the Gulf with drugs like Captagon,” he said.

He added: “By removing Iranian militias and closing Syria to Iranian influence, we’ve served the region’s interests—achieving what diplomacy and external pressure could not, with minimal losses.”

Al-Sharaa also criticized efforts to restore ties with the former Syrian regime, including its return to the Arab League in exchange for concessions.

“We were confident this would fail because we knew the regime would not make any genuine concessions or approach these overtures in good faith,” he said.

He claimed that during a meeting with Jordanian officials, the former regime was asked why it insisted on exporting Captagon to Jordan.

“The response was that it would not stop unless sanctions were lifted," Al-Sharaa said, adding “this is not how the regime operates.”

He emphasized that Gulf strategic security has since improved. “Today, the Iranian project in the region has been pushed back 40 years, making the Gulf more secure and stable.”

When asked if he would give reassurances on Syria not becoming a refuge for certain figures, Al-Sharaa dismissed concerns about hosting figures who cause concern for some Arab nations, saying Syria will not become a haven for controversial individuals.

“We are now focused on state-building. The revolution ended with the regime's fall, and we will not allow it to spread elsewhere. Syria will not be a platform to threaten or unsettle any Arab or Gulf country,” he said.

Al-Sharaa stressed that Syria seeks to rebuild and strengthen ties with Arab nations. “Syria is tired of wars and being used for others’ agendas. We want to restore trust and rebuild our country as part of the Arab world.”

He praised the Gulf’s progress, saying: “We admire the development in Gulf countries, particularly Saudi Arabia’s bold plans and vision, and we aspire to achieve similar progress for Syria.”

He added: “There are many opportunities for cooperation, especially in economic and developmental areas, where we can align our goals.”

On Syria’s relationship with its neighbor Lebanon, Al-Sharaa acknowledged concerns raised by Lebanese counterparts about him reaching Damascus, fearing it could strengthen one faction over another in Lebanon.

“We are not seeking any form of dominance over Lebanon,” he said. “We want a relationship based on mutual respect and exchange, without interfering in Lebanon’s internal affairs. We have enough work to do in our own country.”

Al-Sharaa emphasized Syria’s intention to maintain balanced relations, saying he aims “to stand equally with all Lebanese groups, and what pleases them, pleases us.”

Al-Sharaa was asked about a national dialogue conference and a new constitution to guide Syria’s future, and the mechanism that he plans to ensure inclusivity for all Syrians in the process, especially among the base of supporters and fighters who do not necessarily agree with his current moderate speech.

Al-Sharaa acknowledged differing opinions but emphasized he does not want to impose his personal views on Syrians.

“I believe in letting legal experts shape the relationship between citizens, with the law as the guide,” he said.

“Syria is diverse, and it's natural for there to be different opinions. This difference is healthy.”

Al-Sharaa stressed that the recent victory is for all Syrians, not one group over another.

“Even those we thought were loyal to the old regime expressed joy, as they had not been able to openly express their feelings before,” he noted.

He expressed confidence that Syrians, regardless of their background, are aware enough to protect their country.

“My aim is to reach a broad agreement and build a country where the rule of law helps resolve our differences,” Al-Sharaa concluded.

On the complex issue of forced disappearances and individuals missing in prisons and mass graves, Al-Sharaa said the previous regime was a criminal gang, not a political system.

“We fought a brutal group that committed crimes like arrests, forced disappearances, killings, displacement, starvation, chemical attacks, and torture,” he said.

He stressed that while the regime is gone, the focus should be on justice, not revenge.

“We must not approach this with a desire for vengeance,” he said.

Al-Sharaa stated that those responsible for crimes like the Saydnaya prison and chemical attacks must be held accountable.

“Their names are known and they must be pursued,” he said. He also affirmed that families have the right to file complaints against unknown perpetrators.

Al-Sharaa outlined efforts to address the issue of missing persons. “We’ve broken the barriers, and specialized organizations are now helping with this task,” he said.

A new ministry will be set up to track the fate of the missing, both the deceased and the living.

“This will also assist families with documents like death certificates and inheritance,” he added.

He acknowledged the challenge ahead but emphasized the need to uncover the truth. “This is a big task, but we must find the truth,” Al-Sharaa said.

When asked about hosting the interview at the People’s Palace, the same location where Bashar al-Assad once sat, Al-Sharaa responded with a light-hearted laugh.

“To be honest, I don’t feel comfortable at all,” he said. “But this is a place that should be open to the people, a site where they can visit and where children can play in these courtyards.”