Chris Hughton: 'If I’m Looking at the Protests, Wondering If It Will Change Things, the Answer Is Yes'

Chris Hughton says when he was a player the view was that black players were not captain or managerial material. Photograph: Robbie Jay Barratt - AMA/Getty Images
Chris Hughton says when he was a player the view was that black players were not captain or managerial material. Photograph: Robbie Jay Barratt - AMA/Getty Images
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Chris Hughton: 'If I’m Looking at the Protests, Wondering If It Will Change Things, the Answer Is Yes'

Chris Hughton says when he was a player the view was that black players were not captain or managerial material. Photograph: Robbie Jay Barratt - AMA/Getty Images
Chris Hughton says when he was a player the view was that black players were not captain or managerial material. Photograph: Robbie Jay Barratt - AMA/Getty Images

Chris Hughton is midway through an answer about the lack of black managers at the top of English football when he stops and draws on a quote from Karun Chandhok, the former Formula One driver. “He was talking about the things that Lewis Hamilton has said about racism,” the former Brighton manager says. “One sentence that hit me was: ‘It’s not enough to be non-racist – be actively anti-racist.’ What it says to me is that if we accept that racism has existed in the game then we have to do something about it.”

When Hughton was sacked by Brighton at the end of last season, it meant that Wolves’ Nuno Espírito Santo was the only manager from a black, Asian and minority ethnic background in the Premier League. There are only six employed at the 91 clubs in the top four divisions and, judging by Raheem Sterling’s Newsnight interview on Monday, patience has run out. Sterling has been a powerful anti-racist voice in the past two years and his latest comments, in the wake of the Black Lives Matter protests that have followed George Floyd’s killing by police in Minneapolis, have struck a chord with Hughton.

“When the game is played by such a high percentage of black and ethnic minority players and we’re looking at the percentage of managers and coaches, at the top level it is minimal,” the former Newcastle and Norwich manager says. “At grassroots and academy level there are certainly more black and ethnic minority coaches, but at the top levels it’s still very sparse. The fact Raheem has spoken shows it is something he sees.

“My experiences would be different to others. Ossie Ardiles got the job at Tottenham. I knew Ossie well and he brought me back as his reserve-team coach. That was my intro into coaching. Over the years I have known lots of other potential coaches who couldn’t see a pathway. They couldn’t see role models. There were so many BAME coaches who would apply for jobs and not even get an interview. So many wouldn’t even get replies.”

Floyd’s death has sparked outrage across the world. It has become more than an American problem. Britain, a country where the Windrush scandal was possible, has its own past to confront. Last Sunday demonstrators in Bristol toppled a statue of the 17th-century slave trader Edward Colston. Old wounds remain open and it should surprise nobody that football is not immune to societal inequality.

“When I was a player the mentality was black people would make good players but weren’t captain material or managerial material,” Hughton says. “That stereotyping existed. Racism doesn’t go overnight. It’s over a period of time and education. Some things stick. Do I think those stereotypes still exist? I do.”

Sterling pointed out how Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard, who have landed top roles at Rangers and Chelsea in the early stages of their management careers, have found it easier to get good jobs than Sol Campbell, who is at Southend. “Are we talking about unconscious prejudice?” Hughton said. “To get that out of everybody’s DNA takes a long time. For some it will never happen. But as much as we talk about unconscious profiling, one thing that does exist are the facts.”

Hughton, who wants to get back into management, does not see enough diversity at the top of the Football Association. He commends the FA for ensuring that one BAME coach is associated with each England age group but believes there is more to achieve. “If you are looking at the make-up of our stakeholders and they are without ethnicity, it doesn’t make things easier,” he says.

“There is no doubt that our stakeholders have a responsibility. We have to set things in place to encourage more BAME coaches to want to take their badges. In time the big organisations will be under more pressure to make sure they have an inclusive workforce and board. Our FA and Premier League need to be seen to be inclusive of the workforce. There has to be more pressure on our stakeholders to prove that they are more inclusive.”

Hughton, 61, has experienced racism. When he was younger, he had to learn to control his emotions. What he admires in today’s generation, however, is the refusal to accept the status quo. “If I’m looking at the protests at the moment and wondering if it will change things, the answer is yes,” Hughton says.

“One thing I absolutely applaud is that Raheem is not alone. These players have a platform. I’ve seen the likes of Trent Alexander-Arnold speaking out and the Liverpool team going down on one knee before training.

“Where does the pressure on organisations come from? It comes from enough voices and enough dissatisfaction. A lot of those marching are young individuals. The fact they are seeing what a lot of people have seen for many years is encouraging. It’s going to be about pressure applied.

“I think black players have been the most vocal because they have had those experiences. What I saw from Liverpool was powerful and I would applaud any organisation or club that felt the same. I think it would be more powerful if it came from white players as well. But it would be more powerful if it came from the game as a whole. The game has an opportunity. I know there have been false dawns in the past and stances which have lost momentum but the feeling with this is not going to go away for the time being. Our organisations have a good opportunity to be part of change.”

Hughton says there must be visible action. Last year the EFL implemented the Rooney Rule, compelling clubs to interview at least one BAME candidate when hiring a first-team coach.

“I would have no doubt that a lot of people would use it as a sticking plaster – ‘I will interview at least BAME person for the job because I have to’,” Hughton says. “But in theory I do agree with the Rooney Rule. It’s a step. What I would rather have of course is for everybody to use it in the right way. I think some will and some won’t.

“This has to lead to BAME individuals in positions of real authority … There has to be a real desire to make that change.”

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Liverpool Leads the Way in Premier League, Gives Slot Club Record

05 October 2024, United Kingdom, London: Liverpool's Virgil van Dijk and Mohamed Salah celebrate with coach Arne Slot after the final whistle of the English Premier League match between Crystal Palace and Liverpool at Selhurst Park, London. Photo: Adam Davy/PA Wire/dpa
05 October 2024, United Kingdom, London: Liverpool's Virgil van Dijk and Mohamed Salah celebrate with coach Arne Slot after the final whistle of the English Premier League match between Crystal Palace and Liverpool at Selhurst Park, London. Photo: Adam Davy/PA Wire/dpa
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Liverpool Leads the Way in Premier League, Gives Slot Club Record

05 October 2024, United Kingdom, London: Liverpool's Virgil van Dijk and Mohamed Salah celebrate with coach Arne Slot after the final whistle of the English Premier League match between Crystal Palace and Liverpool at Selhurst Park, London. Photo: Adam Davy/PA Wire/dpa
05 October 2024, United Kingdom, London: Liverpool's Virgil van Dijk and Mohamed Salah celebrate with coach Arne Slot after the final whistle of the English Premier League match between Crystal Palace and Liverpool at Selhurst Park, London. Photo: Adam Davy/PA Wire/dpa

Arne Slot earned a Liverpool record of nine wins from his first 10 games in charge after the club stayed on the top of the English Premier League on Saturday.
Diogo Jota’s ninth-minute goal at Selhurst Park held up to beat Crystal Palace 1-0 and ensure Slot would be looking down on rival managers Pep Guardiola of Manchester City and Mikel Arteta of Arsenal heading into the international break.
Four-time defending champion City is second after beating Fulham 3-2 and third-placed Arsenal won against Southampton 3-1. Both trail Liverpool by a point.
Slot is making light work of filling the void left by Anfield great Jurgen Klopp, with no other manager in the club’s history winning so many of his opening games in all competitions, The Associated Press reported.
“It definitely is (very satisfying). And it’s actually also quite special if you know how many great managers Liverpool had,” Slot said. “But I also said last week I think that I hope they don’t only remember me in one, two, three, four, five years only for this. We are hoping to do more special things than this.”
Liverpool’s only defeat under the Dutchman was a shock 1-0 home loss against Nottingham Forest. Otherwise, it has been a perfect start for a man who had the ominous task of replacing Klopp, who won a full set of major honors including the Premier League and Champions League.
Slot looks likely to be the main challenger to City and Arsenal, who have been first and second respectively in the last two seasons.
Both of those teams survived scares to come from behind to win at home.
Alisson injury It wasn’t all good news for Liverpool after goalkeeper Alisson sustained a suspected hamstring injury and was substituted in the second half at Palace.
The Brazil international, who has only recently returned from a muscle injury, was holding the back of his right leg after limping off Selhurst Park and is likely to miss Brazil’s World Cup qualifiers against Chile and Peru.
Argentina midfielder Alexis Mac Allister also went off with a groin issue that makes him a doubt for his country’s qualifiers against Venezuela and Bolivia.
Home rule City extended its unbeaten home run to 50 games in all competitions with victory against Fulham.
The sequence dates to November 2022 when Brentford won 2-1 at the Etihad Stadium through Ivan Toney’s last-minute strike. City was knocked out of the Champions League quarterfinals by Real Madrid last season after losing a penalty shootout, but the game ended 1-1 after extra time and does not officially count as a defeat.
It took John Stones’ stoppage-time goal to preserve the record in a 2-2 draw against Arsenal last month and on Saturday two goals from Mateo Kovacic saw City fight back after Andreas Pereira fired Fulham into a 26th-minute lead.
Kovacic’s deflected strike leveled the score in the 32nd and he made it 2-1 in the 47th.
Jeremy Doku extended City’s lead in the 82nd before substitute Rodrigo Muniz set up a tense finish with Fulham’s second in the 88th.
Had Adama Traore been more clinical with chances in each half, City’s proud record might have been broken.
City is unbeaten in its last 30 games in the league.
Arsenal’s run Arsenal’s 400th home win in the Premier League era was secured only after being given a fright by second-from-bottom Southampton, which took the lead at Emirates Stadium through Cameron Archer 10 minutes into the second half.
Bukayo Saka set up goals for Kai Havertz in the 58th and Gabriel Martinelli in the 68th before Southampton twice hit the frame of the goal in search of an equalizer.
Saka then put the game beyond doubt with his third goal of the season in the 88th.
Flying starters After becoming the first team in Premier League history to score in the opening minute in three consecutive games, Brentford is slowing down.
The west London club’s fans had to wait until the second minute to cheer its first goal against Wolves on Saturday when Nathan Collins found the back of the net on the way to a wild 5-3 win.
Matheus Cunha equalized for Wolves two minutes later and Bryan Mbeumo restored Brentford’s advantage from the penalty spot in the 20th.
It was all square again when Jorgen Strand Larsen leveled in the 26th, then Christian Norgaard put the home team in front for the third time in the 28th.
Ethan Pinnock made it 4-2 in first half stoppage time.
A frantic finish saw Fabio Carvalho score a fifth for Brentford in the 90th and Rayan Ait-Nouri grab a consolation for last-placed Wolves three minutes later.
Unhappy return Newcastle's Anthony Gordon failed to score from the penalty spot on his return to former club Everton as Newcastle drew 0-0 at Goodison Park.
Gordon, who began his career at Everton before joining Newcastle last year, saw his spot kick saved by Jordan Pickford in the 35th to the delight of the home fans.
The point maintained Everton’s recent upturn in form and extended its unbeaten run to four games in all competitions after losing its first four in the league.
First win Leicester won for the first time since being promoted back to the top flight by beating Bournemouth 1-0.
Facundo Buonanotte struck the winner in the 16th at King Power Stadium.
Also, West Ham beat Ipswich 4-1 at London Stadium.