Jordan Henderson: 'As You Get Older, Your Dreams Get Bigger'

 Jordan Henderson celebrates scoring for Liverpool against Tottenham at Anfield this season. Photograph: Phil Noble/Reuters
Jordan Henderson celebrates scoring for Liverpool against Tottenham at Anfield this season. Photograph: Phil Noble/Reuters
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Jordan Henderson: 'As You Get Older, Your Dreams Get Bigger'

 Jordan Henderson celebrates scoring for Liverpool against Tottenham at Anfield this season. Photograph: Phil Noble/Reuters
Jordan Henderson celebrates scoring for Liverpool against Tottenham at Anfield this season. Photograph: Phil Noble/Reuters

“Through tough times, you can forget how much you love the game,” Jordan Henderson says. “You can take it for granted a little bit. When you’re a small kid, you don’t really think about trophies and winning things. You’re just thinking about playing football. But as you get older, your dreams get bigger. When you get to 16, 17, 18, it comes down to winning at all costs. Doing anything you can.”

We’re talking about trophies, and fulfilment, and happiness. When does pure enjoyment, the thrill of the game, give way to something larger? Why do footballers fixate so much on silverware, measure their lives in medals? At what point does it stop being about the taking part, and become about the winning?

For Henderson, this feels like the perfect moment to pose the question. Last week the Liverpool team he captains became Premier League champions for the first time. It’s the club’s first league title in 30 years, one sealed by a devastating margin. Meanwhile, Henderson himself has overcome more than most to get there: disillusionment, heartbreak, the very real prospect of being sold to Fulham in a swap deal with Clint Dempsey. On some level, you feel, he’s still trying to process what it all means.

But from his relaxed and convivial manner as he sits down for his first major interview since becoming a Premier League champion, from the laughter and honesty on display, you get some sense of the giant weight that has been lifted. There may still be seven games left of the season (six by the time you read this): records to be chased, reputations to be upheld, history to be made. But the mountain has been climbed. And the view from the summit is magnificent.

“It’s been amazing, the last few days,” he says. “I’m not sure it’s really sunk in properly. When you come to Liverpool, you’re expected to win trophies, big trophies. And the Premier League is something I’ve always dreamed of winning. Especially for this football club. Because the fans have wanted it for so long.”

It is when asked about the unsung heroes of Liverpool’s title win that Henderson’s brow furrows just a little. Tentatively, he offers a few tributes. “The owners, who we’re so lucky to have. The people behind the scenes. Your first-team staff. Your physios. The ladies in the canteen. People like Mona [Nemmer], Andreas [Kornmayer], in nutrition and fitness.”

And then he stops, and you realise why. In order to answer the question truthfully, to encapsulate what it really means to bring the title back to Anfield, he’d need to list everyone. All the coaches at Melwood. All the support staff. All the friends and family. Perhaps even the former players and managers who laid the foundations of the team that he has now captained to glory. And he’s petrified of forgetting someone.

“I don’t like singling people out,” he says eventually. “It’s like a big family. That’s what’s so special at this football club. Everyone plays their part, and when we win we all celebrate together.”

In a way, Henderson’s nine years at Anfield constitute their own epic cycle: a salutary tale of perseverance and growth, of finding his place in the machine, the role that could be filled by him and only him. Signed from Sunderland in 2011 as a 20-year-old, there were times when it became harder to glimpse the player once hailed as a potential heir to Steven Gerrard: the hurricane midfielder who could do it all. True enlightenment came in realising that he didn’t have to.

“As time goes on, you learn different things tactically,” he says. “I always felt as though my best position was a box-to-box midfielder who could get up and down. Tackle. Work hard. Assist. Get in the box, but do the defensive side. Counter-press.”

It was the arrival of Jürgen Klopp that helped Henderson find his true calling: as a player whose tireless running and positional intelligence were best deployed not as marauder, but as metronome. As the ticking heart and pumping lungs of Klopp’s midfield, Henderson’s more controlled role in front of the defence – keeping the ball, keeping the shape, keeping the door shut – may contrast sharply with the bold, individualistic risk-taking of Mo Salah or Sadio Mané further forward, or Trent Alexander-Arnold and Andy Robertson on the flanks. But it’s what Liverpool need him to do.

“When the gaffer came, I changed from wanting to be the player that maybe I thought I was – in terms of doing everything – to focusing on what the team needed,” he says. “When you’re a No 6, you’ve got to be a lot more disciplined. You’ve always got to be thinking about protection, counter-pressing, being aware of the counterattack.”

Was there not a part of him that wanted to play further forward, that strained at the idea of playing this less natural role? “A little bit. The gaffer would probably say yes. But ultimately I wanted to become successful. If it meant playing a certain position, that was fine with me. A year ago we had a conversation when Fabinho signed. He was fantastic in that deeper role, definitely one of the best No 6s in the world, and it was an opportunity to move a little further forward. That was over a year ago, and since then I’ve played No 6 and No 8 as much as each other. It doesn’t really matter.”

So how does he now weigh up risk on the pitch? When the ball rolls towards him, what factors go into the decision-making process? “It’s quite instinctive,” he says. “There’s a lot of things we think about that people don’t see. Decision-making is what you see, but it’s also what you’ve been looking at over your shoulder. Top players are always scanning, always checking the picture, so when they get the ball they know exactly where the next pass is going to go.

“To be honest, the way that we play has been coached for a number of years now, so it becomes natural. You know the principles of the team, you know what’s expected every single game. I feel as though we’ve created our own way of playing football over the last few years, and it’s been pretty successful.”

Teams don’t evolve this sort of instinct and automation overnight. It’s taken Klopp five years to produce a team capable of fulfilling his vision, and in Henderson he has a general who will enforce it to the letter. “He’s dealt with a lot in his life,” Henderson says. “And football is all about dealing with situations, negative or positive. He’s so good at finding the right words, saying the right things: whether we’ve been in finals that we’ve lost, or competitions that we’ve won.”

What makes him angry? “Everything!” Henderson says with a hearty laugh. “He is very intense in training. I quite like that. I’d say he was a bit angrier at the beginning, when he first came, than he is now.”

The conversation turns to politics. During the long weeks of lockdown, as Liverpool’s title procession was put on hold, Henderson – in common with many of his fellow players – had time to do a little soul-searching. With the other 19 Premier League captains, he established PlayersTogether, a fund that will raise millions of pounds for the NHS and other causes during the pandemic. He filmed a video for the Black Lives Matter movement. He has seen, for the first time in recent memory, footballers coming together to demand social justice and speak out on causes that move them.

“I know footballers get a lot of stick,” Henderson says.

“Of course you still see certain players making mistakes, doing things they regret. But just because it gets put on the front page of the newspaper, everyone gets tarnished with that same brush. There are so many good people within football, as you’ve seen over the past few months. The perfect example would be what Marcus [Rashford] has done with school meals. But so many other players have been giving to charities which people won’t even hear about.”

As Henderson is the captain of an innately political football club in an innately political city at an innately political moment, it feels only natural to ask for his take on the current landscape. He watches, and reads, and keeps himself informed. But he also sees elements of the political culture in this country that turn him off.

“I always feel it’s about getting at each other,” he says, choosing his words carefully.

“It’s one blaming the other. You don’t know who to trust. It’s so difficult to know who’s telling the truth and who’s not. It feels like everyone’s looking for someone to fail and do something wrong, so they can jump on that.”

What about his own politics? What are the values that inspire him? “Ultimately, it’s about looking after each other. A really powerful thing the players did over this pandemic was coming together for the greater good. There’s so much rivalry on the football pitch, but all of that went to one side. That was a really powerful thing.

“I would like to see politicians coming together a lot more to find the best solutions. Not the best solution for them, or what gets them the most votes. What’s best for the people of the country? How do we look after each other? How do we all come together? That’s been a value of mine since I was a kid, and always will be. Looking after each other, solidarity between people, that’s the most important thing. And the players have shown that these last few months.”

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Forest Great Robertson, 'Picasso of Our Game', Dies at 72

FILE PHOTO: Football - Nottingham Forest v West Ham United - Coca-Cola Football League Championship - 04/05 - The City Ground , 26/9/04 Former Nottingham Forest players Peter Shilton , John Robertson , Tony Woodcock and Frank Clark at the City Ground to pay respects to the late Brian Clough Mandatory Credit: Action Images / Michael Regan/File Photo
FILE PHOTO: Football - Nottingham Forest v West Ham United - Coca-Cola Football League Championship - 04/05 - The City Ground , 26/9/04 Former Nottingham Forest players Peter Shilton , John Robertson , Tony Woodcock and Frank Clark at the City Ground to pay respects to the late Brian Clough Mandatory Credit: Action Images / Michael Regan/File Photo
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Forest Great Robertson, 'Picasso of Our Game', Dies at 72

FILE PHOTO: Football - Nottingham Forest v West Ham United - Coca-Cola Football League Championship - 04/05 - The City Ground , 26/9/04 Former Nottingham Forest players Peter Shilton , John Robertson , Tony Woodcock and Frank Clark at the City Ground to pay respects to the late Brian Clough Mandatory Credit: Action Images / Michael Regan/File Photo
FILE PHOTO: Football - Nottingham Forest v West Ham United - Coca-Cola Football League Championship - 04/05 - The City Ground , 26/9/04 Former Nottingham Forest players Peter Shilton , John Robertson , Tony Woodcock and Frank Clark at the City Ground to pay respects to the late Brian Clough Mandatory Credit: Action Images / Michael Regan/File Photo

John Robertson, the Nottingham Forest winger described by his manager Brian Clough as "a Picasso of our game", has ​died at the age of 72, the Premier League club said on Thursday.

He was a key member of Clough's all-conquering Forest team, assisting Trevor Francis's winner in their 1979 European Cup final victory over Malmo before scoring himself ‌to sink Hamburg ‌in the 1980 final.

"We ‌are ⁠heartbroken ​to ‌announce the passing of Nottingham Forest legend and dear friend, John Robertson," Forest said in a statement, Reuters reported.

"A true great of our club and a double European Cup winner, John’s unrivalled talent, humility and unwavering devotion ⁠to Nottingham Forest will never ever be forgotten."

Robertson spent ‌most of his career ‍at the City ‍Ground, making over 500 appearances across two ‍stints at the club.

Clough once described him as a "scruffy, unfit, uninterested waste of time" who became "one of the finest deliverers of a football ​I have ever seen", usually with his cultured left foot.

Robertson was a ⁠stalwart of Forest's meteoric rise from the second division to winning the English first division title the following season in 1978 before the two European Cup triumphs.

He earned 28 caps for Scotland, scoring the winning goal against England in 1981, and served as assistant manager to former Forest teammate Martin O'Neill at several clubs, including ‌Aston Villa.

"Rest in peace, Robbo... Our greatest," Forest said.


Morocco Coach Dismisses Aguerd Injury Talk, Backs Ait Boudlal ahead of Mali Test

Soccer Football - Africa Cup of Nations - Round of 16 - Morocco v South Africa - Laurent Pokou Stadium, San Pedro, Ivory Coast - January 30, 2024 Morocco coach Walid Regragui reacts REUTERS/Siphiwe Sibeko
Soccer Football - Africa Cup of Nations - Round of 16 - Morocco v South Africa - Laurent Pokou Stadium, San Pedro, Ivory Coast - January 30, 2024 Morocco coach Walid Regragui reacts REUTERS/Siphiwe Sibeko
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Morocco Coach Dismisses Aguerd Injury Talk, Backs Ait Boudlal ahead of Mali Test

Soccer Football - Africa Cup of Nations - Round of 16 - Morocco v South Africa - Laurent Pokou Stadium, San Pedro, Ivory Coast - January 30, 2024 Morocco coach Walid Regragui reacts REUTERS/Siphiwe Sibeko
Soccer Football - Africa Cup of Nations - Round of 16 - Morocco v South Africa - Laurent Pokou Stadium, San Pedro, Ivory Coast - January 30, 2024 Morocco coach Walid Regragui reacts REUTERS/Siphiwe Sibeko

Morocco coach Walid Regragui has dismissed reports that defender Nayef Aguerd is injured, saying the center back was fit and ready for ​Friday’s Africa Cup of Nations Group A clash against Mali.

"Who told you Aguerd is injured? He’s training as usual and has no problems," Regragui told reporters, Reuters reported.

Regragui confirmed captain Romain Saiss will miss the game with a muscle injury sustained against Comoros in their tournament ‌opener, while ‌full back Achraf Hakimi, ‌recently ⁠crowned ​African Player ‌of the Year, is recovering from an ankle problem sustained with Paris St Germain last month and could feature briefly. "Hakimi is doing well and we’ll make the best decision for him," Regragui said. The coach also heaped praise on 19-year-old ⁠defender Abdelhamid Ait Boudlal, calling him "a great talent".

"I’ve been following ‌him for years. I called ‍him up a ‍year and a half ago when he was ‍a substitute at Rennes and people criticized me. Today everyone is praising him – that shows our vision is long-term," Regragui said. "We must not burn the ​player. We’ll use him at the right time. We’ll see if he starts tomorrow ⁠or comes in later."

Ait Boudlal echoed his coach's confidence.

"We know the responsibility we carry. Every game is tough and requires full concentration. We listen carefully to the coach’s instructions and aim to deliver a performance that meets fans’ expectations," he said.

Morocco opened the tournament with a 2-0 win over Comoros and will secure qualification with victory over Mali at Rabat’s Prince Moulay Abdellah ‌Stadium.

"It will be a tough match against a strong team," Regragui added.


Mali coach Saintfiet hits out at European clubs, FIFA over AFCON changes

Mali coach Tom Saintfiet pictured at his team's opening AFCON game against Zambia in Casablanca on Monday © Abdel Majid BZIOUAT / AFP/File
Mali coach Tom Saintfiet pictured at his team's opening AFCON game against Zambia in Casablanca on Monday © Abdel Majid BZIOUAT / AFP/File
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Mali coach Saintfiet hits out at European clubs, FIFA over AFCON changes

Mali coach Tom Saintfiet pictured at his team's opening AFCON game against Zambia in Casablanca on Monday © Abdel Majid BZIOUAT / AFP/File
Mali coach Tom Saintfiet pictured at his team's opening AFCON game against Zambia in Casablanca on Monday © Abdel Majid BZIOUAT / AFP/File

Mali coach Tom Saintfiet on Thursday railed against the decision to play the Africa Cup of Nations every four years instead of two, insisting the move was forced upon the continent by FIFA and European clubs motivated by money.

"I am very shocked with it and very disappointed. It is the pride of African football, with the best players in African football," the Belgian told reporters in Rabat ahead of Friday's AFCON clash between Mali and Morocco, AFP reported.

"To take it away and make it every four years, I could understand if it was a request for any reason from Africa, but it is all instructed by the big people from (European governing body) UEFA, the big clubs in Europe and also FIFA and that makes it so sad."

Saintfiet, 52, has managed numerous African national teams including Gambia, who he led to the quarter-finals of the 2022 Cup of Nations.

He was appointed by Mali in August last year and on Friday will lead them out against current AFCON hosts in a key Group A game at the Prince Moulay Abdellah Stadium.

The Cup of Nations has almost always been held at two-year intervals since the first edition in 1957 but Confederation of African Football president Patrice Motsepe last weekend announced that the tournament would go ahead every four years after a planned 2028 tournament.

"We fought for so long to be respected, to then listen to Europe to change your history -- because this is a history going back 68 years -- only because of financial requests from clubs who use the load on players as the excuse while they create a World Cup with 48 teams, a Champions League with no champions," Saintfiet said.

"If you don't get relegated in England you almost get into Europe, it is so stupid," he joked.

"If you want to protect players then you play the Champions League with only the champions. You don't create more competitions with more load. Then you can still play AFCON every two years.

"Africa is the biggest football continent in the world, all the big stars in Europe are Africans, so I think we disrespect (Africa) by going to every four years.

"I am very sad about that -- I hoped that the love for Africa would win over the pressure of Europe."