Should Nottingham Forest Have Been More Loyal to Players After Promotion?

Badges for sale outside the City Ground before Nottingham Forest’s match against West Ham. Photograph: Paul Ellis/AFP/Getty Images
Badges for sale outside the City Ground before Nottingham Forest’s match against West Ham. Photograph: Paul Ellis/AFP/Getty Images
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Should Nottingham Forest Have Been More Loyal to Players After Promotion?

Badges for sale outside the City Ground before Nottingham Forest’s match against West Ham. Photograph: Paul Ellis/AFP/Getty Images
Badges for sale outside the City Ground before Nottingham Forest’s match against West Ham. Photograph: Paul Ellis/AFP/Getty Images

For the inaugural Premier League season, in 1992-93, Nottingham Forest manager Brian Clough only spent money on two new players. They paid £800,000 to bring Neil Webb back from Manchester United and gave Coventry City about half that for Robert Rosario, bringing their total spend to £1.2m. Thirty years on and Forest have broken the Premier League record for the number of signings in a window, bringing in 22 players for £146m this summer.

Forest fans had waited 23 years to return to the top flight and their joy was unconfined when they sealed promotion by beating Huddersfield Town in the Championship playoffs final. The victory parade in the city’s Old Market Square attracted thousands of supporters as the players joined manager Steve Cooper and owner Evangelos Marinakis on the balcony of the council offices the day after their triumph at Wembley. For the host of that celebration, comedian Matt Forde, the positivity has not diminished.

“There is still an overriding feeling of euphoria, even after a couple of recent defeats,” says Forde. “Getting promoted into the Premier League was like a bullet of pure adrenalin. Considering we had pretty poor starts in the last few seasons in the Championship, the level of stress is minimal by comparison.” Indeed, Forest have had a better start this season in the Premier League than they did in either of their last two seasons in the Championship, when they began with four straight defeats.

Inevitably, many of the players who joined Forde in those celebrations in May have since left the club. Twenty-three players left Forest this summer, either joining new clubs permanently or going out on loan. There was always going to be a high turnover of players, but how do fans feel about the team changing so drastically?

Some of the changes were out of the club’s hands. Cooper had to replace players who had joined Forest on loan last season, such as Djed Spence, Philip Zinckernagel and James Garner. “We also accepted that there had to be an upgrade on the existing squad,” says Forde. “For example, Brice Samba, who was such a big personality and performed heroics in the play-offs semi-final shootout, has been replaced by a better goalkeeper in Dean Henderson. He has certainly made a strong connection with the fans.” Henderson has already proven his worth, saving penalties from Declan Rice and Harry Kane.

“There have been almost as many departures as arrivals,” says Rich Ferraro, host of the 1865 podcast. “Including several players, such as Braian Ojeda and Jonathan Panzo who were brought in on the expectation that we would still be in the Championship this season, so they have gone out on loan. We have had two months to prepare for the Premier League, something that was completely unexpected.”

Ferraro points out that Marinakis has never shied away from the challenge of refreshing the squad. In the five years he has owned the club, Forest have brought in nearly 80 players. The owner was extremely bullish when he addressed the fans at the victory parade, but some supporters were a little wary when they heard the Greek media mogul’s lofty ambitions, as football journalist Daniel Storey explains. “He stood on the steps of the council offices and spoke about thriving in the Premier League rather than just surviving, which was maybe a little bit ahead of our expectations. It is much more likely that we will be in a relegation battle. Right now I would snap your hand off if you offered me 17th place and staying up on goal difference.”

Fans are desperate for success, but Storey feels they should show more loyalty to the players who helped the club earn promotion. When Forest blew a two-goal lead in their home match against Bournemouth last month, there were rumblings of discontent aimed at some of the players who performed so impressively for Forest last season. Steve Cook, Scott McKenna and Joe Worrall are not the quickest backline but Storey thinks fans should cut them some slack. Forde agrees, saying: “The negative chat online is not helpful. Ryan Yates has been singled out as not being good enough but he was instrumental in last season’s success.”

“Players such as Yates and Worrall deserve better treatment,” says Ferraro. “They should be rewarded for all their efforts over the last few seasons with the chance to play in the top flight.” As for the new arrivals, he says they only have to work hard to establish a connection with the fans. “As long as those players are giving their all then we will accept them relatively quickly. Neco Williams has been a shining example over the opening matches, by giving his all in every single match.”

This week’s sacked managers alongside their 2004 counterparts (clockwise from top left): Bournemouth manager Scott Parker, Chelsea's head coach Thomas Tuchel, Blackburn Rovers boss Graeme Souness, Sir Bobby Robson leaves the Blue Flame training ground, after he was 'relieved of his duties' by Newcastle United and Southampton manager Paul Sturrock.

Changing the squad so drastically is a bold move, with Marinakis’ son Miltiadis instrumental in the influx of new blood. It might look harsh on the outgoing players but a fan survey by the Nottingham Post in early August revealed that 86% were happy with the transfers and 88% were “on board with the owners”. The challenge may come when results do not go their way.

Forest were bottom of the Championship when Cooper took over a year ago and they have been on an upwards trajectory since but, as Ferraro points out, the test will come when the team goes on a bad run and he has to maintain their confidence and morale. “He instilled such a good mentality in those players but the big question now is how does he deal with a series of defeats and the waning confidence?”

Forde is confident that the players will follow the trend they set last season and climb up the table. “As fans we have to realise that it takes time to bed in new players,” he says. “We are going in the right direction. By the end of the season, we will be a Premier League club.”

However, Storey is concerned that the owners might panic and sack Cooper if Forest are still near the bottom of the table when the Premier League takes a break for the World Cup in November. Bournemouth, who were promoted alongside Forest, have already sacked the manager who took them up. The fear is that, a year after Cooper arrived and provoked a remarkable resurrection at the club, he could follow many of the players who helped the club get promoted out the exit door. Either way, Forest fans will be hoping this season does not end the way 1992-93 did, in relegation.

The Guardian Sport



Hamilton Says Tension with Ferrari Teammate Leclerc 'Squashed'

Ferrari's seven-time world champion British driver Lewis Hamilton. Nelson ALMEIDA / AFP
Ferrari's seven-time world champion British driver Lewis Hamilton. Nelson ALMEIDA / AFP
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Hamilton Says Tension with Ferrari Teammate Leclerc 'Squashed'

Ferrari's seven-time world champion British driver Lewis Hamilton. Nelson ALMEIDA / AFP
Ferrari's seven-time world champion British driver Lewis Hamilton. Nelson ALMEIDA / AFP

Lewis Hamilton said he and his Ferrari team-mate Charles Leclerc had "squashed" the tension between them that followed their first lap tangle in Mexico.

He said they had resolved to work together for the team in Sunday's Sao Paulo Grand Prix, AFP reported.

The seven-time champion spoke after qualifying 11th in Saturday's rain-hit qualifying at Interlagos where he will start Sunday's race from the back of the grid after taking a penalty for using two new engines.

When asked if his relationship with Leclerc was improved after team boss Fred Vasseur held clear the air talks with them on Thursday evening, Hamilton said: "Fred hasn't cleared the air. It was me and Charles.

"We sat and we spoke, we squashed it. And we're moving on. We still have a huge amount of respect for each other.

"I'm glad we had a chat and now we move on. We've been getting along just fine, as normal.

"Sometimes in those certain scenarios, it just takes having a conversation.

"There's been no demands from either side. It's just been both of us giving our points in areas we can do better and support each other.

"I'm hoping to have better races now, moving forward."

His comments came amid much discussion of Ferrari's need to introduce "rules of engagement" for their drivers, a notion resisted by Vasseur.

Of his qualifying, he said: "I love qualifying and getting to drive in the rain - and this is such an amazing track to race in all conditions, but in the wet particularly.

"It was really a bit of a practice for me in case it is wet again tomorrow."

Leclerc, who had returned to Monaco after Mexico for the birth of his daughter, qualified fourth but will start 14th due to serving a 10-place penalty for taking a new engine.

He agreed he and Hamilton had sorted out their problems.

"When we speak, things are much better straightaway," he said.

"Of course, there is some tension. We want to finish ahead of each other and sometimes we are not going to do things right, but it's OK to disagree sometimes on the way you see things.

"But discussing things helps a whole lot."


Too Close for Comfort for Arteta Despite Arsenal’s Fifth Win in a Row

Arsenal v Hull City - Emirates Stadium, London, Britain - November 7, 2026 Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta applauds fans after the match. (Reuters)
Arsenal v Hull City - Emirates Stadium, London, Britain - November 7, 2026 Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta applauds fans after the match. (Reuters)
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Too Close for Comfort for Arteta Despite Arsenal’s Fifth Win in a Row

Arsenal v Hull City - Emirates Stadium, London, Britain - November 7, 2026 Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta applauds fans after the match. (Reuters)
Arsenal v Hull City - Emirates Stadium, London, Britain - November 7, 2026 Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta applauds fans after the match. (Reuters)

Arsenal earned a sixth ‌Premier League victory by a single-goal margin as they edged a dogged Hull City 1-0 on Saturday but while his side have opened a healthy lead at the top of the table, Mikel Arteta would prefer a little less jeopardy.

Martin Odegaard's 72nd-minute goal after Noni Madueke's shot had been parried by Hull keeper Konstantinos Tzolakis was enough to break Hull's resistance and secure a ninth win for the champions from their first 10 games.

It was not a comfortable ‌afternoon for Arteta, ‌though, as his side had 21 ‌goal ⁠attempts but only ⁠converted once.

"To be more efficient," Arteta told reporters when asked what his side need to do to win by healthier margins.

"We are one against one against the keeper. That's happened twice today. There is a penalty there, there is another situation inside the box where the ball is bouncing. ⁠So many shots that have been deflected, ‌blocked.

"We need to find ways to ‌be more efficient, sometimes even more pragmatic," he added.

"We need ‌to be much more chaotic than that, and that's it. ‌And open, I think, score much earlier because obviously that's going to change the course of the game."

Arsenal were not firing on all cylinders on Saturday but will head into the international ‌break in a dominant position after five successive league wins since losing to Brighton & ⁠Hove Albion ⁠ahead of the first international stoppage.

They are six points clear of stuttering Manchester City and look to be overwhelming favorites for back-to-back titles.

"I think it is time to praise my players. What they have done not only today but after the international break is remarkable because of the games," Arteta said.

"We are not in a really strong position. We know that we can improve in a lot of areas and we'll analyze in this break how we're going to do that. And I will know what to expect afterwards because it's going to be super difficult."


Real Madrid Beat Valencia as Spanish Football Honors De Miguel

Valencia and Real Madrid players observe a minute's silence in memory of the Tenerife player, Jesus De Miguel, prior LaLiga EA Sports game between Valencia and Real Madrid at Mestalla stadium in Valencia, Spain, 07 November 2026. (EPA)
Valencia and Real Madrid players observe a minute's silence in memory of the Tenerife player, Jesus De Miguel, prior LaLiga EA Sports game between Valencia and Real Madrid at Mestalla stadium in Valencia, Spain, 07 November 2026. (EPA)
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Real Madrid Beat Valencia as Spanish Football Honors De Miguel

Valencia and Real Madrid players observe a minute's silence in memory of the Tenerife player, Jesus De Miguel, prior LaLiga EA Sports game between Valencia and Real Madrid at Mestalla stadium in Valencia, Spain, 07 November 2026. (EPA)
Valencia and Real Madrid players observe a minute's silence in memory of the Tenerife player, Jesus De Miguel, prior LaLiga EA Sports game between Valencia and Real Madrid at Mestalla stadium in Valencia, Spain, 07 November 2026. (EPA)

Real Madrid pulled level with La Liga leaders Barcelona with a 3-0 win at Valencia on Saturday, as Spanish football paid tribute to Jesus de Miguel.

Tenerife striker De Miguel died Tuesday after a collision with Andorra's goalkeeper in a Spanish second division match on Monday, and matches across the country were stopped in the ninth minute to pay homage to the number nine.

In Tenerife, fans and players gathered at the stadium for a memorial and farewell to De Miguel.

"You knew what it meant to work towards a common goal, you understood football as something that went far beyond oneself," said Tenerife captain Enric Gallego in an emotional speech.

"Just a few days ago, we were sharing all of that with you -- today we have to speak of you in the past tense. It's terribly unfair."

De Miguel's funeral took place on Thursday and around 400 mourners attended, including Spain coach Luis de la Fuente and Real Madrid president Florentino Perez.

Spain's footballers' union had asked for all weekend matches to be paused as a mark of respect, but most games went ahead.

There was a minute of silence before kick-off for De Miguel and matches were stopped for a minute's applause in the ninth minute -- his shirt number.

- 'This team smells good' -

Real Madrid striker Kylian Mbappe scored for the seventh match running in the win over 10-man Valencia.

Reigning champions Barca visit Atletico Madrid, third, on Sunday, aiming to move back clear of the chasing pack.

Jose Mourinho's Madrid largely dominated at Mestalla stadium as they secured an eighth win in a row across all competitions.

Federico Valverde and Arda Guler's first half goals put Madrid in the driving seat and Mbappe added a third in the second half.

"From my experience, this team smells good," Mourinho told reporters.

The Madrid coach said his team did not lose their heads after their last defeat, by Atletico Madrid on September 20, after which their winning run began.

"We never had chaos, we've been calm, we understand why we lost that game," said Mourinho.

"I always fight for people to be balanced in the good moments, I always tell them that winning games in a team like Real Madrid, you can't be taken up in a whirlwind of joy, winning games at Real Madrid has to be normality."

Los Blancos were without winger Vinicius Junior, who was serving the final game of a four-match ban.

Madrid have thrived in his absence, putting heavy pressure on Barca, whom they beat in the Camp Nou Clasico on October 25.

Valencia's Guido Rodriguez had a goal disallowed for offside before Mourinho's side took control.

Valverde drilled Madrid ahead from outside the area after Mbappe's free-kick was blocked by the Valencia wall and fell to the Uruguayan.

Guler soon doubled the lead, after Jude Bellingham's cross was deflected kindly into his path.

Valencia goalkeeper Stole Dimitrievski saved from Guler, Mbappe and Jude Bellingham as Madrid tried to find a third to kill off the game.

Eventually Mbappe produced it, bursting onto a dangerous pass by Guler to dart past Dimitrievski and squeeze home his 13th league goal of the campaign.

It was the forward's 17th goal in 16 games across all competitions. Mbappe has netted in his last seven appearances for Madrid.

Valencia captain Jose Gaya was dismissed with around 10 minutes remaining for a late sliding foul on Mbappe to further spoil Javier Aguirre's team's night. Los Che are 19th, a point from safety.

"We knew it would be a tough game, facing Madrid at their best moment of the season," Gaya told DAZN.

"We tried in the second half, changed our system... but we couldn't get into the game."

Earlier new Espanyol coach Eder Sarabia's side were held to a goalless home draw by Deportivo La Coruna.

Osasuna snatched a late 1-1 draw against Athletic Bilbao, while Racing Santander came from behind to beat Malaga 2-1.