Nathalie Goulet: ‘We Have to Look at Saudi Arabia As Exceptional Partner’

Nathalie Goulet with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman during her visit to Riyadh earlier.
Nathalie Goulet with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman during her visit to Riyadh earlier.
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Nathalie Goulet: ‘We Have to Look at Saudi Arabia As Exceptional Partner’

Nathalie Goulet with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman during her visit to Riyadh earlier.
Nathalie Goulet with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman during her visit to Riyadh earlier.

Chairman of Parliamentary Group of France and the Gulf Countries and member of the French Senate Nathalie Goulet knows closely Gulf countries since and has visited them all many times, especially Saudi Arabia.

In her interview with Asharq Al-Awast, Goulet presented her vision of Saudi Arabia and stressed the importance of understanding the modernization and openness steps taken by the Saudi leadership and France's need to respond to them.

When asked about the years of strategic partnership between Saudi Arabia and France and how to assess them, Goulet said that these relations are excellent as there have been strategic partnerships in political, military and economic fields.

“Beyond talking about the contracts and numbers, I think that Saudi Arabia is facing strategic sectoral challenges such as sustainable development, sports, youth and tourism... In these sectors, France has extensive and recognized expertise and therefore can benefit the Kingdom and push these relations forward,” Goulet explained.

She also talked about the current bilateral cooperation in the war on terror and money laundering. “I had the honor to contribute to this cooperation,” she said.

In this context, Goulet added that a Saudi delegation that recently visited Paris held a series of meetings with a number of concerned financial institutions.

She stressed that the visit reflects the political will to combat terrorism, calling on all parties to let go of the stereotypes against Saudi Arabia and look at this country objectively.

“If I have the opportunity to say a final word about the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, it is the following,” Goulet said, explaining that “after two years Saudi Arabia will be chairing the G-20 summit, and today we must consider it as an exceptional partner and be proactive in its openness and development, including the social reforms on which it has been working.”

“In societal matters, we must always bear in mind that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is guarding the two holy mosques, and it applies the basic rules of Islamic law.”

“We must respect the sovereignty of states, but this does not prevent us from expressing our opposition to the death penalty,” Goulet stressed.

Responding to a question in regards to the visit’s political aspects, especially the tense areas in the region, including the situation in Syria and Iraq, the war in Yemen and the conflict with Iran, and whether Saudi Arabia and France share a common vision, Goulet said that this common vision is available indeed, especially on regional issues.

“Perhaps the launching of Iranian missiles on Saudi territories shows how urgent the security issue is in this region, and how important it is to take it into consideration along with the Iranian policy.

Asharq Al-Awsat asked Goulet if she considered the nuclear agreement with Iran, which Riyadh firmly rejects, an obstacle to the strengthening of Saudi-French relations. She responded by saying that one of the constants of French diplomacy is that Paris speaks to everyone. “But the recent visit of Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian to Tehran showed the limited rapprochement between the two countries, which would be difficult to overcome”.



UN Deputy Special Coordinator to Asharq Al-Awsat: Humanitarian Situation in Lebanon is ‘Catastrophic’

Imran Riza, the UN’s Deputy Special Coordinator, Resident and Humanitarian Coordinator for Lebanon (Asharq Al-Awsat)
Imran Riza, the UN’s Deputy Special Coordinator, Resident and Humanitarian Coordinator for Lebanon (Asharq Al-Awsat)
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UN Deputy Special Coordinator to Asharq Al-Awsat: Humanitarian Situation in Lebanon is ‘Catastrophic’

Imran Riza, the UN’s Deputy Special Coordinator, Resident and Humanitarian Coordinator for Lebanon (Asharq Al-Awsat)
Imran Riza, the UN’s Deputy Special Coordinator, Resident and Humanitarian Coordinator for Lebanon (Asharq Al-Awsat)

One of the UN’s top humanitarian officials in Lebanon, Imran Riza, has warned that the situation will worsen if the conflict continues, calling for an immediate ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah.

He stressed that the ongoing war is placing immense strain on both the UN and the Lebanese government, as over a million people have been displaced. He said current needs exceed $400 million, but only 12% of that amount has been raised so far.

Worsening Crisis

Riza, who is the UN Deputy Special Coordinator for Lebanon, UN Resident, and Humanitarian Coordinator for Lebanon, spoke to Asharq Al-Awsat. He described the past two weeks as “catastrophic” for civilians, with the crisis growing over the last year.

More than 600,000 people have been displaced and over a million affected, with 300,000 crossing the border, according to Riza.

Many of these people have been displaced more than once in search of safety. Riza emphasized that the war has severely impacted civilians, with more than a quarter of Lebanon's population affected.

The UN has been working to address the crisis, but Riza said resources are limited.

He stressed that the UN has been saying all year that it doesn’t have enough funds, even when there were only 110,000 displaced people.

Last week, the UN launched a $426 million appeal for urgent humanitarian aid, with 12% of the funding already secured.

Riza said more support is expected, with donor countries pledging additional help.

He also expressed gratitude for contributions from the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC), which provided medical and relief supplies, and said the UN hopes to see more international assistance soon.

Working with the Government

The UN is working closely with the Lebanese government every day to provide shelter, food, healthcare, and water to those in need.

Cooperation with the government has been excellent, said Riza.

However, he acknowledged that the government’s capacity is weakened after five years of ongoing crises, which have also severely impacted the population.

People are less resilient than they were during the 2006 war, and the government and its institutions are weaker, affirmed Riza.

The UN is helping the government respond effectively, ensuring transparency and accountability, so that aid reaches those who need it, he added.

The UN is also collaborating with local and international NGOs that have gained experience from Lebanon’s recent crises, helping to ensure a more effective response. Shelters are also being monitored to prevent any abuse.

A Different Reality from 2006

The current situation in Lebanon is very different from the 2006 war. Politically, the country now has a caretaker government and no president, with much less international presence.

Back then, other countries were more involved, said Riza.

The 2006 war lasted only 33 days, but this conflict has dragged on for a year, he noted.

During recent visits to southern border areas, Riza said locals were asking when the war would end, as the situation has worsened significantly in the past two weeks.

Riza noted that, in the first week of the crisis, it was extremely difficult to respond, and even now, many displaced people remain without shelter.

The UN is working with the government to provide shelter, food, and healthcare, but it’s not easy, he noted.

Displacement Crisis

With winter approaching, Riza stressed the need to properly house displaced people, saying that people can’t be left without shelter.

There are also concerns over a lack of housing, clean water, and sanitation, as well as the risk of disease outbreaks. Despite these challenges, Riza praised the close cooperation between the UN, international organizations, and partners.

Many agencies are responding, he asserted.

Riza rejected any claims of discrimination between displaced groups, noting that both Lebanese and Syrians are currently staying in UNRWA schools. He added that talks with the government about sheltering displaced Syrians have been positive.

Riza also expressed concern about the school year and children’s education.

Prolonged Conflict

The United Nations sees no immediate solution to the humanitarian and military crisis in Lebanon, with Riza stressing that the solution must be political and diplomatic, but first, a ceasefire is needed.

While there is little optimism for an end to the conflict, Riza said, the UN is encouraged by the support from its partners, which helps the organization assist the displaced.

He mentioned the recent evacuation of 1,000 people from Ain Ebel and aid distribution in Tyre, emphasizing the need to ensure that they reach those in need.

Riza called on all sides to respect international and humanitarian laws, allowing safe access for aid workers.

He condemned violations, including the deaths of firefighters, health workers, civil defense staff, and UN personnel, adding that the toll on civilian and health infrastructure is growing.