Meslet to Asharq Al-Awsat: US Shows Partiality in Dealing with Syrian Opposition Parties

The President of the National Coalition for Opposition and Revolutionary Forces of Syria, Salem al-Meslet.
The President of the National Coalition for Opposition and Revolutionary Forces of Syria, Salem al-Meslet.
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Meslet to Asharq Al-Awsat: US Shows Partiality in Dealing with Syrian Opposition Parties

The President of the National Coalition for Opposition and Revolutionary Forces of Syria, Salem al-Meslet.
The President of the National Coalition for Opposition and Revolutionary Forces of Syria, Salem al-Meslet.

President of the National Coalition for Opposition and Revolutionary Forces of Syria Salem al-Meslet confirmed, in an interview with Asharq Al-Awsat in Washington, that talks with US parties have been “largely positive” but needed more action to reflect their positivity on the ground.

Meslet, 62, was elected as President of the Coalition last July. He completed his studies in political science in the US in 1978 and later worked as a researcher at the Gulf Research Center in Dubai, where he served as Deputy Director General.

Apart from holding several positions, including chairman of the Syrian Council of Tribes and Clans, Meslet is also the sheikh of the Jubour tribe in Syria and Iraq.

After holding a series of political meetings in Washington, Meslet clarified that the Coalition’s delegation members have met with several US officials from the White House, Department of State, and Department of Defense.

More so, Coalition delegates met with both Republican and Democratic legislators.

According to Meslet, all US officials reaffirmed the US’ commitment to supporting the Syrian revolution and implementing the Caesar Syria Civilian Protection Act.

However, Meslet revealed Coalition delegation members were spotting a difference in the treatment of US officials when it comes to various Syrian opposition factions, favoring one party over the other, in a hint aimed at the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF).

This partiality “causes imbalance among Syrians,” said Meslet, adding that he was convinced that “working with the US administration is important, especially that it is new and without a clear position.”

Meslet pointed out that the US is present in northeast Syria in Kurdish areas, where American distinction in dealing with the Syrian parties becomes “apparent.”

“Friends stand with all parties and not with one party at the expense of another. The Kurds cannot be neglected at the expense of the Arab tribes or the Turkmen, and vice versa as well. We bear the defense of all these parties, and they are our people in Syria,” Meslet told Asharq Al-Awsat.

He demanded the US administration continues to pressure and boycott the Syrian regime, noting that implementing the Caesar Syria Civilian Protection Act did not harm Syrians and instead pushed the regime to stop its oppression.

“The US administration is still committed to implementing the Caesar Act, and the Syrian people do not die because of that. It is the sanctions of the Syrian regime that are bringing war and destruction to Syrians and giving Iranians and regime allies the country’s wealth, oil and facilities,” said Meslet.

“We are representing the women living in refugee camps near borders and standing in long ques to buy bread in regime-controlled areas,” he added.

“Our maxim is that we represent all Syrians,” affirmed Meslet.

“The purpose of our visit is to restore the political track on the table of meetings with the Americans, because the matter has become limited to humanitarian and relief aid in many countries of the world, and we thank everyone who contributes to this framework, but our cause is a political one,” said Meslet.

“We want a political solution to end this ordeal. Ten years is enough for us to see real actions now, seeing our country liberated from Iranian and Russian militias, and Assad (Syrian regime head Bashar al-Assad) is the standard guardian of the Iranian project.”

“This is a difficult period and requires Arab solidarity more than anything else. Assad does not only harm Syria, but all Arab countries. This is an Arab-international decision,” he added.

When asked about Jordan’s inclination to cooperate economically with the Syrian regime, Meslet said that “normalization with the Syrian regime rewards it for the crimes it committed against Syrians.”

“I don’t believe that Jordan wants that, and it had long held good positions with our people.”

Recommending for Jordan to refrain from taking such a step, Meslet warned that the “Syrian regime poses a threat to Jordan and Arabs the same way it does to Syrians themselves.”

“We don’t not advise any country to do so, but rather to think about the millions of displaced, killed and refugee Syrians.”

Meslet pointed out that the decision to normalize and restore relations with the Syrian regime was discussed with the US State Department, which advised Arab countries against making the move.

More so, the US State Department reassured the Coalition’s delegation that it fully recognizes the dangers of normalizing ties with the Syrian regime and that they were far from it.

As for the upcoming meetings of the Syrian Constitutional Committee in Geneva on October 18, Meslet said they were scheduled after three meetings that took place with the UN Special Envoy for Syria, Geir Pedersen.

“This is the sixth round, and I am not optimistic,” said Meslet.

Elaborating on his pessimism, Meslet said: “The meetings revolve around the marginality of the constitution proposed by the United Nations, not the content.”

“Yes, we are with UN Resolution 2254, and with international efforts to end the Syrian crisis, and we have agreed to all the requirements of the international envoy, but the delegation of the Syrian regime is the one who is procrastinating in the political processes, and they are not serious,” he explained.



Goldrich to Asharq Al-Awsat: No US Withdrawal from Syria

US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat
US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat
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Goldrich to Asharq Al-Awsat: No US Withdrawal from Syria

US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat
US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat

Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich has told Asharq Al-Awsat that the US does not plan to withdraw its forces from Syria.

The US is committed to “the partnership that we have with the local forces that we work with,” he said.

Here is the full text of the interview.

Question: Mr. Goldrich, thank you so much for taking the time to sit with us today. I know you are leaving your post soon. How do you assess the accomplishments and challenges remaining?

Answer: Thank you very much for the chance to talk with you today. I've been in this position for three years, and so at the end of three years, I can see that there's a lot that we accomplished and a lot that we have left to do. But at the beginning of a time I was here, we had just completed a review of our Syria policy, and we saw that we needed to focus on reducing suffering for the people in Syria. We needed to reduce violence. We needed to hold the regime accountable for things that are done and most importantly, from the US perspective, we needed to keep ISIS from reemerging as a threat to our country and to other countries. At the same time, we also realized that there wouldn't be a solution to the crisis until there was a political process under resolution 2254, so in each of these areas, we've seen both progress and challenges, but of course, on ISIS, we have prevented the reemergence of the threat from northeast Syria, and we've helped deal with people that needed to be repatriated out of the prisons, and we dealt with displaced people in al-Hol to reduce the numbers there. We helped provide for stabilization in those parts of Syria.

Question: I want to talk a little bit about the ISIS situation now that the US troops are still there, do you envision a timeline where they will be withdrawn? Because there were some reports in the press that there is a plan from the Biden administration to withdraw.

Answer: Yeah. So right now, our focus is on the mission that we have there to keep ISIS from reemerging. So I know there have been reports, but I want to make clear that we remain committed to the role that we play in that part of Syria, to the partnership that we have with the local forces that we work with, and to the need to prevent that threat from reemerging.

Question: So you can assure people who are saying that you might withdraw, that you are remaining for the time being?

Answer: Yes, and that we remain committed to this mission which needs to continue to be pursued.

Question: You also mentioned the importance of humanitarian aid. The US has been leading on this. Are you satisfied with where you are today on the humanitarian front in Syria?

Answer: We remain committed to the role that we play to provide for humanitarian assistance in Syria. Of the money that was pledged in Brussels, we pledged $593 million just this past spring, and we overall, since the beginning of the conflict, have provided $18 billion both to help the Syrians who are inside of Syria and to help the refugees who are in surrounding countries. And so we remain committed to providing that assistance, and we remain keenly aware that 90% of Syrians are living in poverty right now, and that there's been suffering there. We're doing everything we can to reduce the suffering, but I think where we would really like to be is where there's a larger solution to the whole crisis, so Syrian people someday will be able to provide again for themselves and not need this assistance.

Question: And that's a perfect key to my next question. Solution in Syria. you are aware that the countries in the region are opening up to Assad again, and you also have the EU signaling overture to the Syrian regime and Assad. How do you deal with that?

Answer: For the United States, our policy continues to be that we will not normalize with the regime in Syria until there's been authentic and enduring progress on the goals of resolution 2254, until the human rights of the Syrian people are respected and until they have the civil and human rights that they deserve. We know other countries have engaged with the regime. When those engagements happen, we don't support them, but we remind the countries that are engaged that they should be using their engagements to push forward on the shared international goals under 2254, and that whatever it is that they're doing should be for the sake of improving the situation of the Syrian people.

Question: Let's say that all of the countries decided to talk to Assad, aren’t you worried that the US will be alienated in the process?

Answer: The US will remain true to our own principles and our own policies and our own laws, and the path for the regime in Syria to change its relationship with us is very clear, if they change the behaviors that led to the laws that we have and to the policies that we have, if those behaviors change and the circumstances inside of Syria change, then it's possible to have a different kind of relationship, but that's where it has to start.

Question: My last question to you before you leave, if you have to pick one thing that you need to do in Syria today, what is it that you would like to see happening today?

Answer: So there are a number of things, I think that will always be left and that there are things that we will try to do, to try to make them happen. We want to hold people accountable in Syria for things that have happened. So even today, we observed something called the International Day for victims of enforced disappearances, there are people that are missing, and we're trying to draw attention to the need to account for the missing people. So our step today was to sanction a number of officials who were responsible for enforced disappearances, but we also created something called the independent institution for missing persons, and that helps the families, in the non-political way, get information on what's happened. So I'd like to see some peace for the families of the missing people. I'd like to see the beginning of a political process, there hasn't been a meeting of the constitutional committee in two years, and I think that's because the regime has not been cooperating in political process steps. So we need to change that situation. And I would, of course, like it's important to see the continuation of the things that we were talking about, so keeping ISIS from reemerging and maintaining assistance as necessary in the humanitarian sphere. So all these things, some of them are ongoing, and some of them remain to be achieved. But the Syrian people deserve all aspects of our policy to be fulfilled and for them to be able to return to a normal life.