The UK Hopes for Ambitious and Innovative Targets in COP26

Cleverly tells Asharq Al-Awsat Climate change “not just a problem to be managed” but an “opportunity”

James Cleverly
James Cleverly
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The UK Hopes for Ambitious and Innovative Targets in COP26

James Cleverly
James Cleverly

The crucial COP26 summit opened Sunday in Glasgow, on the backdrop of calls to grasp the world’s “last, best hope” to keep global temperatures from rising by more than 1.5 degrees Celsius in comparison with pre-industrial times.

As 25.000 delegates from almost 200 countries descended on the Scottish city for two weeks of intense negotiations, the UK which is hosting the UN climate summit in partnership with Italy, is hoping that participating countries will present ambitious and innovative targets.

“It is incredibly important that the international community takes steps now to green our economies, reduce our reliance on hydrocarbons and to hand the planet to future generations in good order. That is what we are hoping to achieve with our friends and partners around the globe in COP26”, asserts James Cleverly, Minister for the Middle East and North Africa.

In an interview with Asharq Al-Awsat on the eve of the summit, Cleverly says it is really important that “the world comes together, and recommits itself to preventing the increase in temperatures to 1.5 degrees Celsius. Particularly in the Middle East and North Africa, where there are already issues of water scarcity, where the impact of climate is most acutely felt”.

One of the main aims of COP26 is to sharply cut greenhouse emissions in the coming decades, and slow the heating of the planet.

“The UK is very proud of the fact that we have the fastest reduction of greenhouse gases of all the countries in the G7”, says Cleverly. He explains: “We managed to do that, whilst still growing our economy. We made a commitment to net zero by 2050, and we are incredibly pleased that other countries around the world are making big commitments”.

In fact, adds the UK Minister, “we are very pleased with Saudi Arabia making a very high profile commitment to move to net zero. And we really hope that all the countries who are participating in COP26 will be ambitious with their targets, that they will really push for new ideas and innovations, and really commit themselves to preventing climate change, to improving the environment and to making sure that we have a planet on which we are all able to live”.

High profile targets

In a meeting last week, people from civil society in the MENA region raised the alarm about the “the impact climate change is already having in the region, with regards to water shortages, the Eastern Mediterranean having record high sea temperatures, etc”.

“That is why commitments made by countries in the region, as was the case with Saudi Arabia’s very ambitious announcement, are so important”, Cleverly says.

He adds: “If countries which are famous for oil and gas production make such a powerful commitment to Net Zero, then that shows the world that all of us have a responsibility and all of us can play a part”.

Economic opportunities

Whilst climate change poses an existential challenge to the world, the UK has been asking its partners around the globe to also view it as “a fantastic opportunity for technology, and for countries and business to work together”.

Cleverly considers that “there will be a whole range of new economic opportunities that come out of this agenda”, and adds: “We should be positive and excited about this, and we should see this as a way to grow our international bonds, our technology, and commercial links”.

“We need to embrace this as an opportunity, and not just as a problem to be managed”.

Commitments Vs Actions

Critics and environmental activists are skeptical about COP’s chances of success, and call on leaders to do more to translate commitments into action.

“A very important part of COP26 is building on the excellent work that took place in Paris (in 2015), to make sure that we turn those aspirations into real and meaningful actions, because that’s what is going to make a difference”, Cleverly said.

However, he maintained that “commitments are important, we mustn’t ignore that. But we must now hold ourselves collectively to those commitments, and finds ways of turning those words into action”.

And that can only be done collaboratively and internationally, in Cleverly’s view. “And that is why we are coming together physically (as opposed to virtually), so we can look each other in the eye, sit down around the table, and really make a difference”.

The Minister also highlighted the incredibly wide engagement with the summit, and said: “I am really proud that so many world leaders are coming together. It is an incredibly well attended conference, in terms of countries that have committed to sending very senior delegations. And I am really keen that we take this opportunity to take genuine and meaningful steps forward”.

Xi and Putin’s absence

Despite the large international presence in COP26, the absence of two main players, namely Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin, has not gone unnoticed.

In regards to that, Cleverly admits that “the commitment of countries like Russia and China is incredibly important”. But adds: “we should remember that a huge number of very senior leaders will be there. Obviously we want to make sure that the whole world is pulling in this direction. We will continue working with countries around the world, and we will continue pushing this agenda forward”.

He adds: “Obviously, physical presence in Glasgow is incredibly important, but even if some world leaders are not there, we will continue pushing this agenda forward”.

Global Britain

In hosting COP26, and the G7 leaders summit last summer, the UK is asserting its role on the international stage as “Global Britain”.

“The Prime Minister, the Foreign Secretary and the whole of the government are absolutely committed for the UK to be an engaged player on the global stage, to champion issues that we feel are important, like climate change and improving the environment”, Cleverly asserts.

He continues: “As well as coordinating and convening, we are determined to take the lead on being a really effective global country, to drive forward economic advantage, but to do so in a way that protects the environment and is fair and underpinned with the UK’s principles”.



Goldrich to Asharq Al-Awsat: No US Withdrawal from Syria

US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat
US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat
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Goldrich to Asharq Al-Awsat: No US Withdrawal from Syria

US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat
US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat

Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich has told Asharq Al-Awsat that the US does not plan to withdraw its forces from Syria.

The US is committed to “the partnership that we have with the local forces that we work with,” he said.

Here is the full text of the interview.

Question: Mr. Goldrich, thank you so much for taking the time to sit with us today. I know you are leaving your post soon. How do you assess the accomplishments and challenges remaining?

Answer: Thank you very much for the chance to talk with you today. I've been in this position for three years, and so at the end of three years, I can see that there's a lot that we accomplished and a lot that we have left to do. But at the beginning of a time I was here, we had just completed a review of our Syria policy, and we saw that we needed to focus on reducing suffering for the people in Syria. We needed to reduce violence. We needed to hold the regime accountable for things that are done and most importantly, from the US perspective, we needed to keep ISIS from reemerging as a threat to our country and to other countries. At the same time, we also realized that there wouldn't be a solution to the crisis until there was a political process under resolution 2254, so in each of these areas, we've seen both progress and challenges, but of course, on ISIS, we have prevented the reemergence of the threat from northeast Syria, and we've helped deal with people that needed to be repatriated out of the prisons, and we dealt with displaced people in al-Hol to reduce the numbers there. We helped provide for stabilization in those parts of Syria.

Question: I want to talk a little bit about the ISIS situation now that the US troops are still there, do you envision a timeline where they will be withdrawn? Because there were some reports in the press that there is a plan from the Biden administration to withdraw.

Answer: Yeah. So right now, our focus is on the mission that we have there to keep ISIS from reemerging. So I know there have been reports, but I want to make clear that we remain committed to the role that we play in that part of Syria, to the partnership that we have with the local forces that we work with, and to the need to prevent that threat from reemerging.

Question: So you can assure people who are saying that you might withdraw, that you are remaining for the time being?

Answer: Yes, and that we remain committed to this mission which needs to continue to be pursued.

Question: You also mentioned the importance of humanitarian aid. The US has been leading on this. Are you satisfied with where you are today on the humanitarian front in Syria?

Answer: We remain committed to the role that we play to provide for humanitarian assistance in Syria. Of the money that was pledged in Brussels, we pledged $593 million just this past spring, and we overall, since the beginning of the conflict, have provided $18 billion both to help the Syrians who are inside of Syria and to help the refugees who are in surrounding countries. And so we remain committed to providing that assistance, and we remain keenly aware that 90% of Syrians are living in poverty right now, and that there's been suffering there. We're doing everything we can to reduce the suffering, but I think where we would really like to be is where there's a larger solution to the whole crisis, so Syrian people someday will be able to provide again for themselves and not need this assistance.

Question: And that's a perfect key to my next question. Solution in Syria. you are aware that the countries in the region are opening up to Assad again, and you also have the EU signaling overture to the Syrian regime and Assad. How do you deal with that?

Answer: For the United States, our policy continues to be that we will not normalize with the regime in Syria until there's been authentic and enduring progress on the goals of resolution 2254, until the human rights of the Syrian people are respected and until they have the civil and human rights that they deserve. We know other countries have engaged with the regime. When those engagements happen, we don't support them, but we remind the countries that are engaged that they should be using their engagements to push forward on the shared international goals under 2254, and that whatever it is that they're doing should be for the sake of improving the situation of the Syrian people.

Question: Let's say that all of the countries decided to talk to Assad, aren’t you worried that the US will be alienated in the process?

Answer: The US will remain true to our own principles and our own policies and our own laws, and the path for the regime in Syria to change its relationship with us is very clear, if they change the behaviors that led to the laws that we have and to the policies that we have, if those behaviors change and the circumstances inside of Syria change, then it's possible to have a different kind of relationship, but that's where it has to start.

Question: My last question to you before you leave, if you have to pick one thing that you need to do in Syria today, what is it that you would like to see happening today?

Answer: So there are a number of things, I think that will always be left and that there are things that we will try to do, to try to make them happen. We want to hold people accountable in Syria for things that have happened. So even today, we observed something called the International Day for victims of enforced disappearances, there are people that are missing, and we're trying to draw attention to the need to account for the missing people. So our step today was to sanction a number of officials who were responsible for enforced disappearances, but we also created something called the independent institution for missing persons, and that helps the families, in the non-political way, get information on what's happened. So I'd like to see some peace for the families of the missing people. I'd like to see the beginning of a political process, there hasn't been a meeting of the constitutional committee in two years, and I think that's because the regime has not been cooperating in political process steps. So we need to change that situation. And I would, of course, like it's important to see the continuation of the things that we were talking about, so keeping ISIS from reemerging and maintaining assistance as necessary in the humanitarian sphere. So all these things, some of them are ongoing, and some of them remain to be achieved. But the Syrian people deserve all aspects of our policy to be fulfilled and for them to be able to return to a normal life.