Iraqi FM to Asharq Al-Awsat: We Are Mediating Between Washington, Tehran

Iraqi Foreign Minister Fuad Hussein during his interview. (Asharq Al-Awsat)
Iraqi Foreign Minister Fuad Hussein during his interview. (Asharq Al-Awsat)
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Iraqi FM to Asharq Al-Awsat: We Are Mediating Between Washington, Tehran

Iraqi Foreign Minister Fuad Hussein during his interview. (Asharq Al-Awsat)
Iraqi Foreign Minister Fuad Hussein during his interview. (Asharq Al-Awsat)

The Iraqi government is playing a role in “bringing opposites together and creating a situation that promotes dialogue” among neighboring countries, especially Arab Gulf states, Türkiye, and Iran, said Iraqi Foreign Minister Fuad Hussein in an interview with Asharq Al-Awsat on the sidelines of the 77th UN General Assembly in New York.

Hussein emphasized that Saudi Arabia plays a vital role on the Gulf, regional, Arab, Islamic, and international levels. He also voiced his belief that if the Kingdom’s relationship with Iran improves, its role will “be bigger and stronger.”

The top Iraqi diplomat hoped that dialogue between Saudi Arabia and Iran would move from the security to the diplomatic level.

Hussein revealed that Baghdad is mediating between the US and Iran because it is in Iraq’s interest to help the two parties in returning to the 2015 nuclear deal. He added that the remaining dispute between Washington and Tehran revolves around “the interdependence between the agreement and solving some problems outside of the deal.”

The minister stressed that the “6 + 4 group,” which includes Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Oman, Jordan, Iraq, Egypt, and Yemen, is not against Iran.

Instead, the “cooperation group” tackles economic and security fields and energy security.

Speaking on Iraq’s present role in bringing the views of various Arab countries closer to other countries, Hussein said: “We play a leading role in the region in bringing together opposites and in creating a dialogue atmosphere rather than going to conflicts.”

“We support dialogue,” affirmed Hussein.

“But when we talk about creating a dialogue situation, the conditions must also be prepared, and there must be mutual recognition between the parties,” explained Hussein, adding that Iraqi foreign policy prioritizes neighboring countries.

Saudi Arabia on Arab, Islamic and int'l levels

When asked about the relationship he shares with Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Faisal bin Farhan, Hussein pointed out that Iraqi diplomacy is keen on holding personal meetings.

“We have good personal relations with all the ministers of the Gulf states, as well as with the foreign ministers of neighboring countries, such as Iran and Türkiye,” said Hussein.

“Our relations are strong, and we can communicate at any time with any minister,” he stressed, adding that most foreign ministers contact Iraq when they are facing trouble with Iran and Türkiye.

“We do our due diligence and don’t announce it,” explained Hussein.

On enhancing the relationship between Saudi Arabia and Iran, Hussein started by noting that the Kingdom plays a significant role in the Gulf, regional, Arab, Islamic, and international environments.

“If the relationship between the Kingdom and neighboring Iran improves, I think that this role will be bigger and stronger.”

Hussein explained that Iraq is keen on maintaining a healthy environment in the region and that any tension between surrounding countries reflects negatively on its situation.

“Whenever there is a good situation and normal relations between these countries, this will positively affect the internal Iraqi situation,” said Hussein.

As for progress on bringing views closer, the FM remarked that concerned countries must comment on the matter because it involves bilateral relations.

According to the minister, discussions between Riyadh, Tehran and Baghdad have started to tackle ways to raise the level of dialogue from a military aspect to a diplomatic one. They have already held five rounds of talks.

“If matters were agreed upon, this would mean that the Saudi-Iranian dialogue in Baghdad would be made public.”

“We hope to reach this stage. We are working in this direction,” confirmed Hussein.

Commenting on complaints regarding Iran’s interference in the internal affairs of Iraq, Hussein said: “This is a bilateral issue between Iraq and Iran.”

Mediating between the US and Iran

Speaking about Iraq’s position on Iran’s contentious nuclear deal, Hussein said: “Iraq's position is clear. We are in favor of reaching an agreement on the nuclear program. We support the Vienna talks.”

“During the last two years, we have been in constant contact between Washington and Tehran, even during elections,” revealed Hussein, stressing that his country is helping both parties.

“The goal of Iraqi policy in this field is to reach an agreement between Iran and the US.”

As to why Iraq is seeking Iranian-American agreement, Hussein explained that that his country is doing so because of the issue’s Arab dimension and the repercussions it could lead to if a deal is not reached.

“Creating another crisis while we have many crises directly affects the region,” said Hussein.

“Second, because of the strong relations between Baghdad and Washington, and the strong relations with neighboring Iran, any tension between the two parties will affect Iraq politically.”

“It is in the Iraqi interest to help the two parties reach a conclusion.”

“I had a meeting (last week) with Iranian Foreign Minister (Hossein Amir) Abdollahian and before that with some American officials to discuss the issue,” revealed Hussein.

“We are still trying to bring the two sides closer together. But there are problems. The issue is that there is a correlation between the agreement and the solution of some problems outside the deal,” he added.

“These problems have started to emerge recently, but we are still in dialogue with the two parties and we will see what unfolds,” noted Hussein, expressing relief that both parties trust Iraq.

“We discuss the Iranian position with the American side, we discuss the American position with the Iranian side, and we try to find ways to reach understandings.”

Hussein refrained from responding to a question on whether he believes that a US-Iranian agreement could be reached and repeated that he wishes for a deal to come through.



Lebanon’s President to Asharq Al-Awsat: Decision of War and Peace Lies Solely with the State

Lebanese President Joseph Aoun in the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat's editor-in-chief Ghassan Charbel. Photo: Asharq Al-Awsat
Lebanese President Joseph Aoun in the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat's editor-in-chief Ghassan Charbel. Photo: Asharq Al-Awsat
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Lebanon’s President to Asharq Al-Awsat: Decision of War and Peace Lies Solely with the State

Lebanese President Joseph Aoun in the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat's editor-in-chief Ghassan Charbel. Photo: Asharq Al-Awsat
Lebanese President Joseph Aoun in the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat's editor-in-chief Ghassan Charbel. Photo: Asharq Al-Awsat

Lebanese President Joseph Aoun says he wants to build a state that has the decision of war and peace and stressed he is committed to implementing Security Council Resolution 1701.

In an interview with Asharq Al-Awsat, his first since his election in January, Aoun said: “Our objective is to build the state, so nothing is difficult. And if we want to talk about the concept of sovereignty, its concept is to place the decisions of war and peace in the hands of the state, and to monopolize or restrict weapons to the state.”

“When will it be achieved? Surely, the circumstances will allow it,” he told the newspaper.

Asked whether the state will be able to impose control over all Lebanese territories with its own forces and without any military or security partnership, he said: "It is no longer allowed for anyone other than the state to fulfill its national duty in protecting the land and the people ... When there is an aggression against the Lebanese state, the state makes the decision, and it determines how to mobilize forces to defend the country."

He also stressed his full commitment to implement UN Security Council Resolution 1701. “The state and all its institutions are committed to implementing the Resolution” on the “entire Lebanese territories,” Aoun said.

On the possible adoption of a defense strategy, Aoun insisted that even if a state does not have enemies on its borders, it should agree on a national security strategy that not only deals with military goals but also economic and fiscal objectives.

“We are tired of war,” he said in response to a question. “We hope to end military conflicts and resolve our problems through diplomatic efforts,” he said.

Asked whether he was surprised that the Israeli army has stayed at five points in south Lebanon, Aoun said that Israel should have committed to the ceasefire agreement that was sponsored by the US and France and should have withdrawn from all areas it had entered during the war with Hezbollah.

“We are in contact with France and the US to pressure Israel to withdraw from the five points because they don’t have any military value,” he said.

“With the emergence of technologies, drones and satellites,” an army does not need a hill for surveillance, Aoun added.

"Saudi Arabia has become a gateway for the region and for the whole world. It has become a platform for global peace,” he said when asked why he has chosen to visit the Kingdom on his first official trip abroad.

“I hope and expect from Saudi Arabia, especially Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, that we correct the relationship for the benefit of both countries and remove all the obstacles ... so that we can build economic and natural relations between us.”

He said that during his visit he plans to ask Saudi Arabia to revive a grant of military aid to Lebanon.

On relations with the Syrian authorities, Aoun said he intends to have friendly ties the new Syrian administration and that one of the pressing issues is to resolve the problem of the porous border between the two countries.

“There are problems on the border (with Syria) with smugglers. Most importantly, the land and sea border with Syria should be demarcated,” he said.

Aoun also called for resolving the problem of Syrian refugees in Lebanon. “The Syrian state cannot give up on 2 million citizens who have been displaced to Lebanon.”

The refugees should return because “the Syrian war ended and the regime that was persecuting them collapsed,” he said.