ENGIE: We Are Working with Saudi Arabia to Transition to Carbon-Neutral Economy

ENGIE CEO Catherine MacGregor (Asharq Al-Awsat)
ENGIE CEO Catherine MacGregor (Asharq Al-Awsat)
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ENGIE: We Are Working with Saudi Arabia to Transition to Carbon-Neutral Economy

ENGIE CEO Catherine MacGregor (Asharq Al-Awsat)
ENGIE CEO Catherine MacGregor (Asharq Al-Awsat)

ENGIE CEO Catherine MacGregor affirmed that her company’s work in Saudi Arabia aligns with the Kingdom’s national transformation plan, Vision 2030, and its focus on accelerating the transition to a carbon-neutral economy.

MacGregor pointed out that ENGIE, since the start of its business in Saudi Arabia more than two decades ago, has harnessed its expertise in the field of providing energy services solutions with low carbon emissions.

ENGIE has cooperated with Saudi authorities to develop and implement a range of energy projects that operate on gas, renewable energy, production, storage, distribution, green hydrogen, seawater desalination and district cooling. The company has also helped manage high-value-added facilities.

Speaking to Asharq Al-Awsat on the sidelines of the Future Investment Initiative (FII) forum, which recently concluded its activities in Riyadh, MacGregor emphasized ENGIE’s commitment to Saudi Arabia.

This is demonstrated through ENGIE working closely with its partners to provide new job opportunities in the short term and promote long-term development in the Kingdom.

As part of its commitment to building a more sustainable and prosperous future for the Saudi people, the company is constantly looking to cooperate with the leadership in the Kingdom to achieve greater successes.

- Company Strategy

“Since the outbreak of the Russian-Ukrainian crisis, the world has witnessed unprecedented developments and fundamental changes in the field of energy,” noted MacGregor when talking about ENGIE’s strategy for the upcoming period.

“Therefore, ENGIE should play an active role in the development and innovation of future energy systems, which ensure the protection of the supply chain, the containment of energy costs and the acceleration of the transition to a carbon-neutral economy in the near future,” she added.

She pointed out that ENGIE’s active role is in line with the company strategy announced 18 months ago.

MacGregor highlighted that ENGIE, in the grand transformation journey, focused its business and strategic priorities on accelerating the energy transformation process. It also set ambitious plans to achieve net zero emissions by 2045.

“On the path towards achieving these goals, ENGIE will focus on enhancing and increasing the production of renewable energy from 36 GW currently to 80 GW in 2030,” MacGregor affirmed.

“Moreover, ENGIE continues to work on developing the field of energy solutions by providing support to its customers in their journey towards decarbonization,” she added.

- The importance of the Middle East

“ENGIE’s presence in the Middle East dates to nearly three decades ago. It has a total capacity to generate 30 GW of energy, in addition to 8 plants using reverse osmosis technology to provide the water needs of 10.6 million people daily,” noted MacGregor.

“ENGIE works with its partners in the Middle East to support countries, cities and companies by designing and developing innovative and energy-saving solutions,” she added.

“Green hydrogen is one of ENGIE's focuses and the primary tool for accelerating the transition to clean energy.”

ENGIE and Masdar had signed a strategic alliance agreement to explore the co-development of a UAE-based green hydrogen hub. The two companies are looking to develop projects with a capacity of at least 2 GW by 2030, with a total investment in the region of $5 billion.

“The company, alongside Masdar, signed an agreement with Fertiglobe this year to participate in the development of a green hydrogen production plant in the UAE, which is expected to be commercially operational in 2025, with a production capacity of 200 MW,” reminded MacGregor.

Fertiglobe are already part of a consortium developing a new build, million-ton-per-year blue ammonia plant in UAE’s al-Ruwais.

- Russian Gas Alternatives

Talking about alternatives to Russian gas and how to balance cost and demand, MacGregor said: “In 2021, Russia accounted for about 20% of the group’s gas sales and consumption in the world, but this number has fallen to nearly zero now.”

“ENGIE has made unremitting efforts over the past months to diversify its gas supply sources, and was able to obtain additional capacity from Norway or the US, taking advantage of the efficient infrastructure in Europe in general, and France in particular, to import liquefied natural gas.”

MacGregor noted the need for addressing global price hikes triggered by current crises in the short term.

“Economic activity in Asia, especially in China, has not fully recovered from the repercussions of the coronavirus pandemic yet, so the world will witness a significant increase in demand when the situation improves.”

“This will lead to a change in balance. Urgency will appear at the global level to rethink supply chains and the importance of diversifying them,” explained MacGregor.

- New Energy Sector

MacGregor confirmed that the current crisis, which followed the coronavirus pandemic, has exposed the weaknesses of the incumbent system. It also shed light on the importance of energy, the need for affordable prices, and a necessity for reducing the carbon footprint.

“There is a need to use this crisis to accelerate the transition to clean energy. I also believe that we have an individual and collective responsibility to confront confusion in the energy system and global warming, and to enhance consumer behavior.”

“I am confident ENGIE's position as a global leader in the energy transition is what motivates our employees around the world,” said MacGregor about the future of her company in light of the different challenges facing the world economy.

“After refocusing on our core business, we will leverage all our resources to achieve the ambitious growth targets that have been set,” she affirmed.



Al-Sharaa to Asharq Al-Awsat: Revolution Ended with Regime’s Fall, Will Not Be Exported

Ahmed Al-Sharaa in the interview with Bissane El-Cheikh in Damascus on Thursday
Ahmed Al-Sharaa in the interview with Bissane El-Cheikh in Damascus on Thursday
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Al-Sharaa to Asharq Al-Awsat: Revolution Ended with Regime’s Fall, Will Not Be Exported

Ahmed Al-Sharaa in the interview with Bissane El-Cheikh in Damascus on Thursday
Ahmed Al-Sharaa in the interview with Bissane El-Cheikh in Damascus on Thursday

Ahmed Al-Sharaa, the head of the new Syrian administration, told Asharq Al-Awsat that “the Syrian revolution ended with the regime's fall, and we will not allow it to spread elsewhere.”

He stressed that Syria “will not be used to attack or destabilize any Arab or Gulf country.”

Speaking from the Presidential Palace in Damascus on Thursday, Al-Sharaa said the Syrian opposition’s actions had “set the Iranian project in the region back by 40 years.”

Asked why Syria has yet to send a direct message to the Gulf and major Arab nations, Al-Sharaa responded by saying that his country has much to say to its Arab neighbors.

“Syria had become a platform for Iran to control key Arab capitals, spread wars, and destabilize the Gulf with drugs like Captagon,” he said.

He added: “By removing Iranian militias and closing Syria to Iranian influence, we’ve served the region’s interests—achieving what diplomacy and external pressure could not, with minimal losses.”

Al-Sharaa also criticized efforts to restore ties with the former Syrian regime, including its return to the Arab League in exchange for concessions.

“We were confident this would fail because we knew the regime would not make any genuine concessions or approach these overtures in good faith,” he said.

He claimed that during a meeting with Jordanian officials, the former regime was asked why it insisted on exporting Captagon to Jordan.

“The response was that it would not stop unless sanctions were lifted," Al-Sharaa said, adding “this is not how the regime operates.”

He emphasized that Gulf strategic security has since improved. “Today, the Iranian project in the region has been pushed back 40 years, making the Gulf more secure and stable.”

When asked if he would give reassurances on Syria not becoming a refuge for certain figures, Al-Sharaa dismissed concerns about hosting figures who cause concern for some Arab nations, saying Syria will not become a haven for controversial individuals.

“We are now focused on state-building. The revolution ended with the regime's fall, and we will not allow it to spread elsewhere. Syria will not be a platform to threaten or unsettle any Arab or Gulf country,” he said.

Al-Sharaa stressed that Syria seeks to rebuild and strengthen ties with Arab nations. “Syria is tired of wars and being used for others’ agendas. We want to restore trust and rebuild our country as part of the Arab world.”

He praised the Gulf’s progress, saying: “We admire the development in Gulf countries, particularly Saudi Arabia’s bold plans and vision, and we aspire to achieve similar progress for Syria.”

He added: “There are many opportunities for cooperation, especially in economic and developmental areas, where we can align our goals.”

On Syria’s relationship with its neighbor Lebanon, Al-Sharaa acknowledged concerns raised by Lebanese counterparts about him reaching Damascus, fearing it could strengthen one faction over another in Lebanon.

“We are not seeking any form of dominance over Lebanon,” he said. “We want a relationship based on mutual respect and exchange, without interfering in Lebanon’s internal affairs. We have enough work to do in our own country.”

Al-Sharaa emphasized Syria’s intention to maintain balanced relations, saying he aims “to stand equally with all Lebanese groups, and what pleases them, pleases us.”

Al-Sharaa was asked about a national dialogue conference and a new constitution to guide Syria’s future, and the mechanism that he plans to ensure inclusivity for all Syrians in the process, especially among the base of supporters and fighters who do not necessarily agree with his current moderate speech.

Al-Sharaa acknowledged differing opinions but emphasized he does not want to impose his personal views on Syrians.

“I believe in letting legal experts shape the relationship between citizens, with the law as the guide,” he said.

“Syria is diverse, and it's natural for there to be different opinions. This difference is healthy.”

Al-Sharaa stressed that the recent victory is for all Syrians, not one group over another.

“Even those we thought were loyal to the old regime expressed joy, as they had not been able to openly express their feelings before,” he noted.

He expressed confidence that Syrians, regardless of their background, are aware enough to protect their country.

“My aim is to reach a broad agreement and build a country where the rule of law helps resolve our differences,” Al-Sharaa concluded.

On the complex issue of forced disappearances and individuals missing in prisons and mass graves, Al-Sharaa said the previous regime was a criminal gang, not a political system.

“We fought a brutal group that committed crimes like arrests, forced disappearances, killings, displacement, starvation, chemical attacks, and torture,” he said.

He stressed that while the regime is gone, the focus should be on justice, not revenge.

“We must not approach this with a desire for vengeance,” he said.

Al-Sharaa stated that those responsible for crimes like the Saydnaya prison and chemical attacks must be held accountable.

“Their names are known and they must be pursued,” he said. He also affirmed that families have the right to file complaints against unknown perpetrators.

Al-Sharaa outlined efforts to address the issue of missing persons. “We’ve broken the barriers, and specialized organizations are now helping with this task,” he said.

A new ministry will be set up to track the fate of the missing, both the deceased and the living.

“This will also assist families with documents like death certificates and inheritance,” he added.

He acknowledged the challenge ahead but emphasized the need to uncover the truth. “This is a big task, but we must find the truth,” Al-Sharaa said.

When asked about hosting the interview at the People’s Palace, the same location where Bashar al-Assad once sat, Al-Sharaa responded with a light-hearted laugh.

“To be honest, I don’t feel comfortable at all,” he said. “But this is a place that should be open to the people, a site where they can visit and where children can play in these courtyards.”