German Foreign Ministry Spokesperson: We Care About the Path of Reform in Saudi Arabia, Ready to Support it

The spokesman for the German Foreign Ministry in the Middle East and North Africa, Dennis Kumetat. (German Information Center)
The spokesman for the German Foreign Ministry in the Middle East and North Africa, Dennis Kumetat. (German Information Center)
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German Foreign Ministry Spokesperson: We Care About the Path of Reform in Saudi Arabia, Ready to Support it

The spokesman for the German Foreign Ministry in the Middle East and North Africa, Dennis Kumetat. (German Information Center)
The spokesman for the German Foreign Ministry in the Middle East and North Africa, Dennis Kumetat. (German Information Center)

The spokesman for the German Foreign Ministry in the Middle East and North Africa, Dennis Kumetat, stressed that Germany and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia share a “deep” partnership.

“Berlin is following with interest the political and social reform processes initiated by Saudi Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman, which would modernize the state, especially the role of women,” pointed out Kumetat.

Kumetat expressed his country’s “readiness to support Saudi Arabia in taking more steps on this path.”

“The kingdom plays a major role in regional politics in many respects and is, therefore, an important dialogue partner for Berlin,” he told Asharq Al-Awsat.

“We welcome the increasingly constructive Saudi role, as well as the efforts of the (Gulf Cooperation Council) regarding its policy towards Yemen.”

Furthermore, Kumetat described the economic partnership between Berlin and Riyadh as “close.”

He pointed to the “increasing” presence of German companies in the Kingdom, adding that Germany welcomes Riyadh becoming a global player in modern and sustainable energy production.

“Goals of expanding renewable energies by 2030 to reach 30% of the electricity mix are very ambitious, and Germany is happy to provide support in this field,” revealed Kumetat.

The official spokesman also referred to what he described as a “special partnership” with Riyadh in the field of hydrogen, especially since Berlin relies on importing green hydrogen to achieve its goal of reducing carbon emissions to zero by 2045.

“Saudi Arabia has excellent capabilities for producing and exporting hydrogen,” said Kumetat.

As for Iran, Kumetat said his country was closely watching internal and external developments with “grave concern.”

“The regime in Tehran is under great pressure from its people to open up, but it does not respond to that with dialogue, but rather with brutal repression, arbitrariness, and violence,” noted Kumetat, adding that Germany denounces the Iranian regime’s oppression of its people.

Kumetat also referred to his country’s condemnation of Iran’s “problematic role” in the region, especially in countries like Syria and Iraq.

He also voiced Germany’s concern about the “increasing long-term moves of Iran’s nuclear policy” and stressed the need for action “to avoid a nuclear escalation.”

“It is understandable for Arab Gulf states to view Tehran with great skepticism,” said Kumetat, adding that German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock had discussed the matter in detail with Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Faisal bin Farhan at the Munich Security Conference.

“Germany will continue to rely on diplomacy and political solutions in this regard,” emphasized Kumetat.

“It is important that the channels of dialogue remain open despite the tensions,” he added.

Regarding the Ukrainian crisis, Kumetat stressed that “only Ukraine decides whether and when negotiations will take place.”

The German spokesman stressed that Ukrainians were defending themselves against Russia, which had invaded their lands.

According to Kumetat, the German chancellor had repeatedly stressed to Russian President Vladimir Putin the need to end this “illegal war of aggression.”

Concerning the Palestinian-Israeli conflict in the Middle, Kumetat reiterated the German government’s commitment to finding a peaceful solution and said that Berlin has strong relations with both warring parties.

He also stressed that Germany shares significant relations with primary international players involved in the conflict.

“It is important for Germany that the two parties continue to pursue the possibility of achieving a two-state solution based on the Oslo agreement.”

On the Syrian issue, Kumetat stressed that “Germany will not abandon the people in Syria.”

Syrians have suffered from war and its consequences for over a decade.

“Germany is the second largest donor to Syria, as it provided more than 1.8 billion euros last year alone,” reminded Kumetat.

Given the earthquake disaster that struck parts of northern Syria, Berlin has upped its humanitarian commitment in the war-torn country by 50 million euros.

“We will continue to look further into the future and help where it is most needed,” asserted Kumetat.

On whether the earthquake catastrophe has created a new dynamic for the possibility of normalizing relations with the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, Kumetat said: “Assad’s regime has been responsible for a brutal war against its people for more than a decade.”

“The only way to normalize ties is through the regime providing significant and verifiable political concessions within the framework of the UN-led Geneva process,” explained Kumetat.



Goldrich to Asharq Al-Awsat: No US Withdrawal from Syria

US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat
US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat
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Goldrich to Asharq Al-Awsat: No US Withdrawal from Syria

US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat
US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich during the interview with Asharq Al-Awsat

Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Ethan Goldrich has told Asharq Al-Awsat that the US does not plan to withdraw its forces from Syria.

The US is committed to “the partnership that we have with the local forces that we work with,” he said.

Here is the full text of the interview.

Question: Mr. Goldrich, thank you so much for taking the time to sit with us today. I know you are leaving your post soon. How do you assess the accomplishments and challenges remaining?

Answer: Thank you very much for the chance to talk with you today. I've been in this position for three years, and so at the end of three years, I can see that there's a lot that we accomplished and a lot that we have left to do. But at the beginning of a time I was here, we had just completed a review of our Syria policy, and we saw that we needed to focus on reducing suffering for the people in Syria. We needed to reduce violence. We needed to hold the regime accountable for things that are done and most importantly, from the US perspective, we needed to keep ISIS from reemerging as a threat to our country and to other countries. At the same time, we also realized that there wouldn't be a solution to the crisis until there was a political process under resolution 2254, so in each of these areas, we've seen both progress and challenges, but of course, on ISIS, we have prevented the reemergence of the threat from northeast Syria, and we've helped deal with people that needed to be repatriated out of the prisons, and we dealt with displaced people in al-Hol to reduce the numbers there. We helped provide for stabilization in those parts of Syria.

Question: I want to talk a little bit about the ISIS situation now that the US troops are still there, do you envision a timeline where they will be withdrawn? Because there were some reports in the press that there is a plan from the Biden administration to withdraw.

Answer: Yeah. So right now, our focus is on the mission that we have there to keep ISIS from reemerging. So I know there have been reports, but I want to make clear that we remain committed to the role that we play in that part of Syria, to the partnership that we have with the local forces that we work with, and to the need to prevent that threat from reemerging.

Question: So you can assure people who are saying that you might withdraw, that you are remaining for the time being?

Answer: Yes, and that we remain committed to this mission which needs to continue to be pursued.

Question: You also mentioned the importance of humanitarian aid. The US has been leading on this. Are you satisfied with where you are today on the humanitarian front in Syria?

Answer: We remain committed to the role that we play to provide for humanitarian assistance in Syria. Of the money that was pledged in Brussels, we pledged $593 million just this past spring, and we overall, since the beginning of the conflict, have provided $18 billion both to help the Syrians who are inside of Syria and to help the refugees who are in surrounding countries. And so we remain committed to providing that assistance, and we remain keenly aware that 90% of Syrians are living in poverty right now, and that there's been suffering there. We're doing everything we can to reduce the suffering, but I think where we would really like to be is where there's a larger solution to the whole crisis, so Syrian people someday will be able to provide again for themselves and not need this assistance.

Question: And that's a perfect key to my next question. Solution in Syria. you are aware that the countries in the region are opening up to Assad again, and you also have the EU signaling overture to the Syrian regime and Assad. How do you deal with that?

Answer: For the United States, our policy continues to be that we will not normalize with the regime in Syria until there's been authentic and enduring progress on the goals of resolution 2254, until the human rights of the Syrian people are respected and until they have the civil and human rights that they deserve. We know other countries have engaged with the regime. When those engagements happen, we don't support them, but we remind the countries that are engaged that they should be using their engagements to push forward on the shared international goals under 2254, and that whatever it is that they're doing should be for the sake of improving the situation of the Syrian people.

Question: Let's say that all of the countries decided to talk to Assad, aren’t you worried that the US will be alienated in the process?

Answer: The US will remain true to our own principles and our own policies and our own laws, and the path for the regime in Syria to change its relationship with us is very clear, if they change the behaviors that led to the laws that we have and to the policies that we have, if those behaviors change and the circumstances inside of Syria change, then it's possible to have a different kind of relationship, but that's where it has to start.

Question: My last question to you before you leave, if you have to pick one thing that you need to do in Syria today, what is it that you would like to see happening today?

Answer: So there are a number of things, I think that will always be left and that there are things that we will try to do, to try to make them happen. We want to hold people accountable in Syria for things that have happened. So even today, we observed something called the International Day for victims of enforced disappearances, there are people that are missing, and we're trying to draw attention to the need to account for the missing people. So our step today was to sanction a number of officials who were responsible for enforced disappearances, but we also created something called the independent institution for missing persons, and that helps the families, in the non-political way, get information on what's happened. So I'd like to see some peace for the families of the missing people. I'd like to see the beginning of a political process, there hasn't been a meeting of the constitutional committee in two years, and I think that's because the regime has not been cooperating in political process steps. So we need to change that situation. And I would, of course, like it's important to see the continuation of the things that we were talking about, so keeping ISIS from reemerging and maintaining assistance as necessary in the humanitarian sphere. So all these things, some of them are ongoing, and some of them remain to be achieved. But the Syrian people deserve all aspects of our policy to be fulfilled and for them to be able to return to a normal life.