'It's Beyond the Model': Have Liverpool Exposed the Limits of Xg?

 Alisson Becker and Virgil van Dijk combine to keep West Ham’s Pablo Fornals at bay. Photograph: Jason Cairnduff/Action Images via Reuters
Alisson Becker and Virgil van Dijk combine to keep West Ham’s Pablo Fornals at bay. Photograph: Jason Cairnduff/Action Images via Reuters
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'It's Beyond the Model': Have Liverpool Exposed the Limits of Xg?

 Alisson Becker and Virgil van Dijk combine to keep West Ham’s Pablo Fornals at bay. Photograph: Jason Cairnduff/Action Images via Reuters
Alisson Becker and Virgil van Dijk combine to keep West Ham’s Pablo Fornals at bay. Photograph: Jason Cairnduff/Action Images via Reuters

There was just the faintest whiff of schadenfreude about it. A table had been published showing how the Premier League would have finished if it were decided by expected goals. “Look,” a colleague said, “according to xG Manchester City should have won the title by 13 points.” In fact, over the past two seasons, Liverpool should have had 39 points fewer. It pained the colleague to say it, but might Jürgen Klopp have exposed the limits of nerdery?

Seeking to show whether a given shot is a good chance, whether it should have gone in, xG is one of many metrics used in football analytics. It is, however, the first to move into the mainstream. It is featured (after the corner count) on Match of the Day, it pops up in analysis articles and is widespread on Twitter. It has also become a focal point in the debate about how far the magic of football can be distilled into numerical form. So when an xG league table looks so far off the real thing, people start asking questions.

It also provides a good excuse to talk with Ted Knutson, one of the most respected ambassadors for football analytics. An American and a former gambling professional, Knutson is best known for his work establishing Brentford’s analytics-based approach. It was a tough week for him in that regard (of which more later) but his explanation of Liverpool’s second-placed finish in the xG table is conciliatory towards those who don’t trust the data.

“You can put the difference down to having really great talent,” he says. “Having a great goalkeeper like Alisson will help you give up fewer goals. Part of it is a little bit of luck. But I think there’s stuff Liverpool do that’s not in the expected goals model.

“I’m not going to be specific about that but at a certain point when you have had the second and fourth-best Premier League seasons ever and the expected goals models don’t really reflect that, maybe you’ve got some stuff going on that is beyond the model.

“Part of [improving the model] is trying to make the data a bit better all the time to reflect that. City I think scored 102 goals and had 35 against but they were blowing out teams. They always keep their foot on the gas. The depth City had coming off the bench during the restart was just insane.

“Liverpool, as good as they are, they don’t have that. So they have learned over the last few years to be able to manage games. Once they get that second goal, especially, they defend well but probably don’t spend so much time exhausting themselves on the pressing side of it.

“I think those two things are reflected in that table. Liverpool do not always put their foot on the gas. But it’s also a little bit how the data and the models don’t reflect some of the edges that they have found and been able to exploit.

Since xG went large – it first appeared on Match of the Day in 2017-18 – Knutson says there has been a more welcoming approach to analytics within club boardrooms. Knutson’s company, Statsbomb, consults with a number of clubs in the Premier League and several on the continent, including Paris St-Germain.

The issue now, says Knutson, is not scepticism of analytics but using it to make good decisions. “At club level it’s clearly difference in execution [that matters],” he says. “Some clubs are able to get things done and others end up mired in politics behind the scenes. The execution, even with better data, is what’s going to mark out the elite teams from those who are not. That’s really what separated Liverpool – they don’t make mistakes.”

One club characterised by a lack of mistakes, before their goalkeeper David Raya went walkabout in the play-off final at least, is Brentford. With promotion so narrowly missed, however, there will be questions over whether Thomas Frank’s eye-catching side can come again.

“I think the hardest thing for teams to do in football is rebuild, we have seen this over and over again,” Knutson says. “Brentford have sold stars since they first came up to the Championship but they still manage to keep getting better and keep aggregating value.

“They’ve also got a better coach and [as well as being the Championship’s top scorers], Brentford have been great in defence, even through the play-offs till that flukey, goofy goal. I think that they can rebuild, but it’s also the same question for the Leicesters and the Southamptons. Football is hard, transfers are hard. People don’t seem to respect that very much.”

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Mbappe Misses France Training Ahead of Italy Clash

 France's forward #10 Kylian Mbappe (C) arrives for a training session third days ahead of France's UEFA Nations League football match against Italy in Clairefontaine-en-Yvelines outside Paris on November 9, 2026. (AFP)
France's forward #10 Kylian Mbappe (C) arrives for a training session third days ahead of France's UEFA Nations League football match against Italy in Clairefontaine-en-Yvelines outside Paris on November 9, 2026. (AFP)
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Mbappe Misses France Training Ahead of Italy Clash

 France's forward #10 Kylian Mbappe (C) arrives for a training session third days ahead of France's UEFA Nations League football match against Italy in Clairefontaine-en-Yvelines outside Paris on November 9, 2026. (AFP)
France's forward #10 Kylian Mbappe (C) arrives for a training session third days ahead of France's UEFA Nations League football match against Italy in Clairefontaine-en-Yvelines outside Paris on November 9, 2026. (AFP)

France captain Kylian Mbappe did not take part in team training on Wednesday and remained "under treatment" ahead of his country's Nations League match against Italy, Les Bleus' coaching staff said.

The French coaching staff did not provide any further details regarding the 27-year-old's physical condition.

The Real Madrid forward is back in the France squad for this camp after missing their last three matches through injury.

Mbappe scored the winning goal in Zinedine Zidane's first match as coach against Türkiye in September in the Nations League, but had to leave the pitch shortly afterwards due to pain in his left knee.

After three wins and a draw in four matches, France top Group A1 of the Nations League and are well on course to qualify for the quarter-finals ahead of their final two pool-stage fixtures against Italy on Thursday in Milan, and Türkiye on Sunday in Bordeaux.


Ngumoha Has Ballon d’Or in His Sights After Taking Inspiration from Kane’s Triumph

UEFA Champions League - Fenerbahce v Liverpool - Sukru Saracoglu Stadium, Istanbul, Türkiye - November 4, 2026 Liverpool's Rio Ngumoha, Kostas Tsimikas and Dominik Szoboszlai during the warm up before the match. (Reuters)
UEFA Champions League - Fenerbahce v Liverpool - Sukru Saracoglu Stadium, Istanbul, Türkiye - November 4, 2026 Liverpool's Rio Ngumoha, Kostas Tsimikas and Dominik Szoboszlai during the warm up before the match. (Reuters)
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Ngumoha Has Ballon d’Or in His Sights After Taking Inspiration from Kane’s Triumph

UEFA Champions League - Fenerbahce v Liverpool - Sukru Saracoglu Stadium, Istanbul, Türkiye - November 4, 2026 Liverpool's Rio Ngumoha, Kostas Tsimikas and Dominik Szoboszlai during the warm up before the match. (Reuters)
UEFA Champions League - Fenerbahce v Liverpool - Sukru Saracoglu Stadium, Istanbul, Türkiye - November 4, 2026 Liverpool's Rio Ngumoha, Kostas Tsimikas and Dominik Szoboszlai during the warm up before the match. (Reuters)

Liverpool winger Rio ‌Ngumoha said Harry Kane's Ballon d'Or victory can inspire a new generation of English footballers, including himself, to follow in the Bayern Munich striker's footsteps and be recognized as the world's best.

Kane was awarded football's highest individual honor last month, becoming the first Englishman to win the award since ‌Michael Owen ‌in 2001.

Ngumoha, who was called ‌up ⁠to the England ⁠squad for this week's Nations League games against Croatia and Spain, said Kane was an inspiration.

"Harry Kane winning the Ballon d'Or is definitely a big thing," the 18-year-old told British ⁠media.

"It's also helped English football ‌now because everyone's ‌seen one of us win the Ballon ‌d'Or, it is definitely encouraging many ‌more people to want to be known as the best player in the world.

"For me, I would like to achieve it ‌and I think I can do it."

Ngumoha was a bright ⁠spark ⁠for Liverpool last season and has become a key part of the squad, inspiring them to a 4-3 comeback victory over Villarreal in the Champions League last month.

He has played three times for England since making his debut in June.

England host Croatia at Wembley on Thursday, before travelling to Madrid to face world champions Spain on Sunday.


Source: Man United Does ‘Due Diligence’ on Pochettino Becoming Its Next Coach

United States head coach Mauricio Pochettino arrives for the World Cup round of 16 soccer match between the United States and Belgium in Seattle, July 6, 2026. (AP)
United States head coach Mauricio Pochettino arrives for the World Cup round of 16 soccer match between the United States and Belgium in Seattle, July 6, 2026. (AP)
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Source: Man United Does ‘Due Diligence’ on Pochettino Becoming Its Next Coach

United States head coach Mauricio Pochettino arrives for the World Cup round of 16 soccer match between the United States and Belgium in Seattle, July 6, 2026. (AP)
United States head coach Mauricio Pochettino arrives for the World Cup round of 16 soccer match between the United States and Belgium in Seattle, July 6, 2026. (AP)

Manchester United is working on a potential deal to have US men’s team coach Mauricio Pochettino to replace Michael Carrick, who is under pressure after a dismal start to the season, a source with knowledge of the situation said Wednesday.

United is in 18th place in the Premier League standings after 10 rounds, the club's worst start in the modern era.

Pochettino is a candidate to succeed Carrick, even though the 54-year-old Argentine is under contract with the US team through the 2030 World Cup.

A person with knowledge of the situation told The Associated Press that preparations to appoint Pochettino had been carried out as a matter of “due diligence." The person spoke on the condition of anonymity because no final decision has been made on Carrick's future.

Julian Nagelsmann, Eddie Howe and Antonio Conte have also been reported to be options in recent weeks.

It is not uncommon for clubs weigh up potential candidates and reach out to intermediaries before deciding to fire a coach.

Pochettino, who has previously coached Southampton, Tottenham and Chelsea in the Premier League, took over the US team in October 2024 and led it to the round of 16 at this year’s World Cup.

He was a leading candidate for Manchester United in 2022 when Erik ten Hag was ultimately hired.

Pochettino won the French title with Paris Saint-Germain in 2022, but arguably his greatest achievement was turning Tottenham into a serial title contender in the Premier League and also leading the London club to the Champions League final in 2019.

He has never won a major trophy in England, most recently losing in the final of the English League Cup with Chelsea in 2024.

Carrick, who said Sunday that he would not walk away from the job, was due to lead training Wednesday despite increased speculation over his position.

United opted against firing him last month, deciding to give him time to turn around a wretched start to the season, but Sunday's 4-4 draw with Aston Villa left the 20-time English champion in the relegation zone with just one win from 10 games.