Lieutenant General Yasser Al-Atta: Wagner is Fighting in Sudan

Lieutenant General Yasser Al-Atta
Lieutenant General Yasser Al-Atta
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Lieutenant General Yasser Al-Atta: Wagner is Fighting in Sudan

Lieutenant General Yasser Al-Atta
Lieutenant General Yasser Al-Atta

A prominent leader in the Sudanese army, Lieutenant General Yasser Al-Atta, said that the army fully controls all the provinces of the country, with the exception of some limited enclaves.

He accused the media affiliated with the Rapid Support Forces (RSF) of fabricating lies to raise the morale of its members.

In an exclusive interview with Asharq Al-Awsat, Al-Atta - a member of the ruling Sovereignty Council – thanked Saudi Arabia and the United States for their mediation to end the fighting in Sudan. He stressed, however, that the army was seeking to expel the rebel forces from Khartoum, limit their presence to one camp, engage the good elements into the army and prosecute the senior leaders of the RSF.

Al-Atta denied the possibility of the current conflict turning into a civil war, “because the army and its leadership represent all of Sudan’s regions and tribes.”

He confirmed the intervention of the Russian Wagner forces in the fighting and gold extraction operations, revealing that General Mohamed Hamdan “Hemedti” Dagalo, commander of Sudan’s RSF, owns a large stock of gold (53 tons in Russia and 22 tons in another sister country and inside Sudan).

The army controls all provinces

Al-Atta told Asharq Al-Awsat that the Sudanese army was in complete control of all the provinces, except for some rebel enclaves, which have lost most of their capabilities and were currently carrying out some criminal acts.

“Conflicting information is the result of the misleading media of the rebels,” he emphasized, noting that the army has captured and destroyed all of the Rapid Support military bases in the capital, which forced the paramilitary group to deploy in the vicinity of the presidential palace, and inside the residential neighborhoods.

They are also present inside hospitals, schools and densely populated neighborhoods, he remarked.

“For the reasons I mentioned, the General Command set up new strategies to defeat [the Rapid Support Forces]”, by taking into account the need to protect the citizens and avoid causing damage to the state’s infrastructure.

The “mother of all battles” was led by Al-Burhan

According to Al-Atta, the Sudanese army succeeded in expelling the Rapid Support Forces from the General Command and the Khartoum airport.

“Recently, they summoned large forces from outside Khartoum, estimated at three battalions, which deployed in the airport neighborhood next to the house of the president, and in the vicinity of the General Command, while three battalions occupied the headquarters of the Operations Authority, and three others the headquarters of the dissolved National Congress (the ruling party during the era of ousted President Omar al-Bashir). The two locations are directly adjacent to the south of the airport.”

He continued: “All these forces were crushed in the battles of the General Command, which we called ‘the mother of all battles,’ and were personally led by the Commander-in-Chief [Abdel-Fattah Al-Burhan]. There remains the Battle of the Palace in which we besieged them, and they will be completely defeated.”

“They did not win any battle because they betrayed our forces that were working with them side by side.... The irrational ambitions of their leadership led them to this holocaust,” Al-Atta stated.

The Saudi-American initiative

The Sudanese army’s senior official thanked Saudi Arabia and the United States for their mediation to end the fighting.

“But our goal in the dialogue is only to expel the rebel forces from the capital, limit their presence in one camp, and select members who meet the conditions of the military service to join the armed forces ... The remaining members will be handed over to the demobilization commission to be qualified for public life,” he said.

He also stressed the need to prosecute the senior leaders of the RSF for the crimes they committed against the country and the citizens.

“Any dialogue that does not address these points will be a postponement of the war,” he warned.

Fears of a civil war

Asked about fears that the clashes would develop into a civil war, in light of the presence of many armies and security breaches, in addition to the fragile economic situation, Al-Atta said: “No, these battles will not lead to a civil war because the Sudanese army includes all the tribes of Sudan.”

He added: “Our problem is with the Dagalo gang and some of the criminal leaders who forced these young men into a battle to serve their personal interests only. So there will never be a civil war in this direction, God willing.”

On fears of regional and international parties engaging in the war, Al-Atta emphasized that the Sudanese army “did not ask any country to support us in the war, knowing the sensitivity of the matter.”

“We have a dead sniper from Wagner, and we have received some information... that there are attempts by sister countries to seek help for the rebel militia, and that [Hemedti] forces include mercenaries from Chad, Niger, Mali and others,” he told Asharq Al-Awsat.

Wagner in Sudan

On the support proposal offered by the commander of the Russian Wagner forces, Al-Atta said: “We don’t want his help. We only deal with recognized international, regional and humanitarian countries and organizations. If the state of Russia wants to help, it is welcome.”

He pointed to the Wagner members’ presence in Sudan, saying: “All the world knows where they are. Wherever there are gold mining companies for Hemedti, in Sudan or on the borders with Libya or Central Africa, there are Wagner elements.”

Sudan’s gold is being smuggled

According to Al-Atta, Sudan’s gold has been smuggled abroad for years, and the volume of smuggled production is very large.

“The information available to me indicates that Hemedti has stocks estimated at 53 tons in Russia and 22 tons in another sister country..., while he is hiding tons in Sudan,” he revealed.

Responding to accusations that the army commander had allowed the Rapid Support Forces to expand and recruit freely, in violation of the army law, Al-Atta said: “The army commander stopped the last recruitment and refused to give them military numbers. Despite this, they recruited more than 36,000 soldiers, who have now been stopped by the war.”

He explained that the army commander always avoided confrontation and tended to integrate them under political pressure.

“But the politicians forged alliances with them due to their lack of experience and temporary tactics...” he remarked.

Hemedti is lying

Al-Atta accused General Mohamed Hamdan “Hemedti” Dagalo, commander of Sudan’s RSF, of fabricating lies.

He also pointed to conflicting reports about pressure exerted on Libyan National Army (LNA) commander Khalifa Haftar to support Hemedti.

“Recently, we learned that he went back on this. We sincerely hope for this move by a brotherly and dear country,” he noted.

As for Ethiopia, Al-Atta thanked Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed for “his courageous stance that border issues can only be resolved through dialogue.”

“He is a man of morals stemming from a great African civilization... He is saluted and appreciated,” he noted.

Perthes’ negative role

The Sudanese army official described as “negative” the role of Special Representative of the United Nations Secretary-General in Sudan, Volker Perthes.

“His role is very negative, because he falls into a circle of influence that makes him walk in one limited direction that will not allow him to solve the problem. His idea will not lead us to safety. It is better to replace him with another envoy who is neutral and open to all,” he told Asharq Al-Awsat.



Al-Sharaa to Asharq Al-Awsat: Revolution Ended with Regime’s Fall, Will Not Be Exported

Ahmed Al-Sharaa in the interview with Bissane El-Cheikh in Damascus on Thursday
Ahmed Al-Sharaa in the interview with Bissane El-Cheikh in Damascus on Thursday
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Al-Sharaa to Asharq Al-Awsat: Revolution Ended with Regime’s Fall, Will Not Be Exported

Ahmed Al-Sharaa in the interview with Bissane El-Cheikh in Damascus on Thursday
Ahmed Al-Sharaa in the interview with Bissane El-Cheikh in Damascus on Thursday

Ahmed Al-Sharaa, the head of the new Syrian administration, told Asharq Al-Awsat that “the Syrian revolution ended with the regime's fall, and we will not allow it to spread elsewhere.”

He stressed that Syria “will not be used to attack or destabilize any Arab or Gulf country.”

Speaking from the Presidential Palace in Damascus on Thursday, Al-Sharaa said the Syrian opposition’s actions had “set the Iranian project in the region back by 40 years.”

Asked why Syria has yet to send a direct message to the Gulf and major Arab nations, Al-Sharaa responded by saying that his country has much to say to its Arab neighbors.

“Syria had become a platform for Iran to control key Arab capitals, spread wars, and destabilize the Gulf with drugs like Captagon,” he said.

He added: “By removing Iranian militias and closing Syria to Iranian influence, we’ve served the region’s interests—achieving what diplomacy and external pressure could not, with minimal losses.”

Al-Sharaa also criticized efforts to restore ties with the former Syrian regime, including its return to the Arab League in exchange for concessions.

“We were confident this would fail because we knew the regime would not make any genuine concessions or approach these overtures in good faith,” he said.

He claimed that during a meeting with Jordanian officials, the former regime was asked why it insisted on exporting Captagon to Jordan.

“The response was that it would not stop unless sanctions were lifted," Al-Sharaa said, adding “this is not how the regime operates.”

He emphasized that Gulf strategic security has since improved. “Today, the Iranian project in the region has been pushed back 40 years, making the Gulf more secure and stable.”

When asked if he would give reassurances on Syria not becoming a refuge for certain figures, Al-Sharaa dismissed concerns about hosting figures who cause concern for some Arab nations, saying Syria will not become a haven for controversial individuals.

“We are now focused on state-building. The revolution ended with the regime's fall, and we will not allow it to spread elsewhere. Syria will not be a platform to threaten or unsettle any Arab or Gulf country,” he said.

Al-Sharaa stressed that Syria seeks to rebuild and strengthen ties with Arab nations. “Syria is tired of wars and being used for others’ agendas. We want to restore trust and rebuild our country as part of the Arab world.”

He praised the Gulf’s progress, saying: “We admire the development in Gulf countries, particularly Saudi Arabia’s bold plans and vision, and we aspire to achieve similar progress for Syria.”

He added: “There are many opportunities for cooperation, especially in economic and developmental areas, where we can align our goals.”

On Syria’s relationship with its neighbor Lebanon, Al-Sharaa acknowledged concerns raised by Lebanese counterparts about him reaching Damascus, fearing it could strengthen one faction over another in Lebanon.

“We are not seeking any form of dominance over Lebanon,” he said. “We want a relationship based on mutual respect and exchange, without interfering in Lebanon’s internal affairs. We have enough work to do in our own country.”

Al-Sharaa emphasized Syria’s intention to maintain balanced relations, saying he aims “to stand equally with all Lebanese groups, and what pleases them, pleases us.”

Al-Sharaa was asked about a national dialogue conference and a new constitution to guide Syria’s future, and the mechanism that he plans to ensure inclusivity for all Syrians in the process, especially among the base of supporters and fighters who do not necessarily agree with his current moderate speech.

Al-Sharaa acknowledged differing opinions but emphasized he does not want to impose his personal views on Syrians.

“I believe in letting legal experts shape the relationship between citizens, with the law as the guide,” he said.

“Syria is diverse, and it's natural for there to be different opinions. This difference is healthy.”

Al-Sharaa stressed that the recent victory is for all Syrians, not one group over another.

“Even those we thought were loyal to the old regime expressed joy, as they had not been able to openly express their feelings before,” he noted.

He expressed confidence that Syrians, regardless of their background, are aware enough to protect their country.

“My aim is to reach a broad agreement and build a country where the rule of law helps resolve our differences,” Al-Sharaa concluded.

On the complex issue of forced disappearances and individuals missing in prisons and mass graves, Al-Sharaa said the previous regime was a criminal gang, not a political system.

“We fought a brutal group that committed crimes like arrests, forced disappearances, killings, displacement, starvation, chemical attacks, and torture,” he said.

He stressed that while the regime is gone, the focus should be on justice, not revenge.

“We must not approach this with a desire for vengeance,” he said.

Al-Sharaa stated that those responsible for crimes like the Saydnaya prison and chemical attacks must be held accountable.

“Their names are known and they must be pursued,” he said. He also affirmed that families have the right to file complaints against unknown perpetrators.

Al-Sharaa outlined efforts to address the issue of missing persons. “We’ve broken the barriers, and specialized organizations are now helping with this task,” he said.

A new ministry will be set up to track the fate of the missing, both the deceased and the living.

“This will also assist families with documents like death certificates and inheritance,” he added.

He acknowledged the challenge ahead but emphasized the need to uncover the truth. “This is a big task, but we must find the truth,” Al-Sharaa said.

When asked about hosting the interview at the People’s Palace, the same location where Bashar al-Assad once sat, Al-Sharaa responded with a light-hearted laugh.

“To be honest, I don’t feel comfortable at all,” he said. “But this is a place that should be open to the people, a site where they can visit and where children can play in these courtyards.”